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I know it's Mike McCaul, a Republican, but I think this could be true.

If it is true then Jake Sullivan needs to be removed from his position.



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As you can see, the price of oil was around $60 per barrel at the beginning of 2024, but now is at $81.5. This is about a 35% jump, and the gas prices and just about everything is going to get a lot more expensive very quickly with further attacks on oil infrastructure.  Basically, inflation correlates the most with oil and gas prices, so this is a direct Guage of consumer pain. 



Of course China is stepping up support, who could have seen this coming? Continued slowness and weakness from the West has given China nothing to fear, the West should have went full force against Russia from day one in support of Ukraine to show their strength, to show unity, to show what happens to imperialist countries like Russia and China trying to invade another country but they instead opted to drag this shit out.

As for America, I would like to see European countries publicly come out in support of Ukraine and tell America to shut up in terms of Ukraine striking military targets with its own drones, I need to see someone leading Europe, like France, taking over from America, Europe is our land to defend, Ukraine losing wouldn't affect America anywhere near as much as it would affect Europe so America should keep its whining to itself.

The issue is when someone steps up to lead, like France, people like America and Germany moan at them.

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Part of the MAGA's shtick is to be "hard on China", so if US continues to do nothing, it is basically acting in the interest of China. It seems like a politcally strong move for the incumbent government to reveal any and all extent that China supports Russia.

The US has basically done nothing for half a year, as the Russia's allies strengthen them.



Farsala said:

Part of the MAGA's shtick is to be "hard on China", so if US continues to do nothing, it is basically acting in the interest of China. It seems like a politcally strong move for the incumbent government to reveal any and all extent that China supports Russia.

The US has basically done nothing for half a year, as the Russia's allies strengthen them.

Give it a few years, Republicans will go from hating China to loving China because Democrats dislike them, same as they did with Russia

Yeah. United States enemies are all growing bolder (Russia, China, Iran and North Korea) and thanks to collaboration are also growing stronger (Iran and North Korea) which are both horrific regimes and definitely shouldn't be encouraged. Meanwhile America is paralysed to help Ukraine because of a single dude in House.

But Biden admin should also shut up about Ukraine's strikes on military targets. Russia has zero restrictions, Ukraine has what feels like dozens, has to fight a war not like a war but like someone with one arm tied behind their back holding a bunch of flowers, I know for a fact if another country bombed America, they would absolutely go nuts on that country and aerial bomb the ever loving shit out of whatever country it was.

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If America's aid package is ever approved, I better see another Patriot system and ATACMS on the firsts list after how long this shit has dragged out. Need to go all out and fast. Add a few hundred more Bradley's and I assume there's a lot of artillery being produced in anticipation of the aid package being approved by the US military industry that can be sent.

Edit - Maybe Reaper Drones? Lol.

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Ryuu96 said:
Farsala said:

Part of the MAGA's shtick is to be "hard on China", so if US continues to do nothing, it is basically acting in the interest of China. It seems like a politcally strong move for the incumbent government to reveal any and all extent that China supports Russia.

The US has basically done nothing for half a year, as the Russia's allies strengthen them.

Give it a few years, Republicans will go from hating China to loving China because Democrats dislike them, same as they did with Russia

Yeah. United States enemies are all growing bolder (Russia, China, Iran and North Korea) and thanks to collaboration are also growing stronger (Iran and North Korea) which are both horrific regimes and definitely shouldn't be encouraged. Meanwhile America is paralysed to help Ukraine because of a single dude in House.

But Biden admin should also shut up about Ukraine's strikes on military targets. Russia has zero restrictions, Ukraine has what feels like dozens, has to fight a war not like a war but like someone with one arm tied behind their back holding a bunch of flowers, I know for a fact if another country bombed America, they would absolutely go nuts on that country and aerial bomb the ever loving shit out of whatever country it was.

The Biden admin also has an extremely strong economy right now, and a lot of that has to do with Russia's supply of oil. It doesn't surprise me that they want Ukraine to wait until the election is over with.



Ryuu96 said:

But last month the Financial Times reported the Biden Administration had urged Ukraine to halt its campaign targeting Russian refineries and warned that "the drone strikes risk driving up global oil prices and provoking retaliation."

U.S. Ambassador to NATO Julianne Smith said Tuesday that "in terms of actually going after targets inside Russia, that is something that the United States is not particularly supportive of." State Department spokesman Matthew Miller declined last week "to speak to specific conversations" regarding the Russian refineries. But he said "it has always been our position since the outset of this war that we do not encourage or support Ukraine taking strikes outside its own territory."

So Ukraine has to suffer attacks on its territory, but it can't hit back at its aggressor? Striking Russian air bases and drone facilities have obvious military value, and Russia's refineries obviously help to fuel and finance the Kremlin's war machine. Between Feb. 24, 2022, and January 2024, Russia has damaged or destroyed some $9 billion in Ukrainian energy infrastructure, according to the Kyiv School of Economics.

Ukraine's strikes have disrupted between 10% and 14% of Russia's refinery capacity. British defense intelligence notes that "depending on the extent of the damage, major repairs could take considerable time and expense." Russia will also have to deploy air defenses to protect its refineries.

Ukraine's goal with the strikes is to complicate Russia's efforts to fuel its troops. S&P Global Commodity Insights estimates that in May 2022 Russia's military campaign was consuming nearly 6% of domestic diesel output.

Sanctions have created spare refining capacity in Belarus, but Russia may have to reconfigure the routes it uses to get fuel to the front. Vladimir Putin will prioritize filling tanks over Russians' cars, and the refinery attacks will likely cause local fuel disruptions that bring the war home to Russians.

Ukraine's strikes on Russia won't decide the war's outcome, but they are important as Ukraine's dwindling ammo and air defenses limit other options. While Mr. Putin continues to escalate, the White House frets about the Russian response to any perceived escalation. The bigger geopolitical risk is what will happen if Ukraine falls to Russian aggression. If the U.S. won't offer more arms, the least it can do is get out of Ukraine's way.

Biden Tells Ukraine Not to Hit Russia - WSJ

shavenferret said:

As you can see, the price of oil was around $60 per barrel at the beginning of 2024, but now is at $81.5. This is about a 35% jump, and the gas prices and just about everything is going to get a lot more expensive very quickly with further attacks on oil infrastructure.  Basically, inflation correlates the most with oil and gas prices, so this is a direct Guage of consumer pain. 

And this is why Biden urges Ukraine not to attack Russian infrastructure. The high oil price tends to have big effect on the re-election chances of any incumbent president, so if it continues to rise, Biden fears he may lose to Trump just because of this.