FarleyMcFirefly said:
SecondWar said:
With your 100% certainty questions, I’d say 1) and 3) probably are happening to some degree and whilst it is important to guard against that, it equally is not an adequate reason to not aide in Ukraine’s defence. 2) however I would say isn’t happening and seems to come from a weird conspiracy theory that was doing the rounds at the start of the war. |
So they are happening to some degree, but you cannot know to which degree? What is the threshold of it being okay? Saying that something is a conspiracy theory is just to write off questions. |
True, I don’t know to what degree. But I have seen that the deliveries of weapons to Ukraine have made some level of tangible difference. Additionally there have been report embezzlement charges against Ukrainian officials so whilst there is some level of corruption it is being addressed where possible. So whilst there’s a problem it is not being ignored.
Furthermore , what is the result if aide to Ukraine just stops outright? That outcome is not desirable at all. So it seems far better to continue aide whilst also working to guard against corruption.
The biolabs thing I call a conspiracy theory as it was presented originally by Russia with no supporting evidence. I believe it also said the CIA sponsoring Ukraine to create bio-weapons to use against ethnic Russians, but that notion was absurd given that Ukrainians are the same ethnic group as Russians so the bio-weapons would hurt Ukraine as well. To me that seems to have all the hallmarks of a conspiracy theory.