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Does anyone have any idea about what kind of vehicles the plan is going to be manufacturing exactly? I know Rheinmetall from Leopard tanks, but do we have any actual knowledge yet? Anyway, great news (just like the situation with Sweden)!



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Man I wouldn't like to work in a factory which Russia wants to destroy but I guess still better than fighting at the frontline. Let's hope they can defend it. I guess Rheínmetall will also place some own air defense around the factory. They definitely have systems for that especially made to defend military buildings



For a war to "stop NATO expansion" this is such a tactical fuck up of epic proportions.

Russia might as well not even have a Baltic Fleet anymore.

And the fucking Black Sea Fleet can't even safely navigate the Black Sea anymore either. Going to be a future where Turkey owns the Black Sea whilst Ukraine continues sending Russian ships to the depths, if they reach the Sea of Azov and put Sevastopol in range then Russia might as well kiss goodbye to their Black Sea fleet too.

NATO owns the Black Sea and the Baltic Sea.



Zkuq said:

Does anyone have any idea about what kind of vehicles the plan is going to be manufacturing exactly? I know Rheinmetall from Leopard tanks, but do we have any actual knowledge yet? Anyway, great news (just like the situation with Sweden)!

Panther KF51 was the plan. Not sure if it's possible, though. 



Zkuq said:

Does anyone have any idea about what kind of vehicles the plan is going to be manufacturing exactly? I know Rheinmetall from Leopard tanks, but do we have any actual knowledge yet? Anyway, great news (just like the situation with Sweden)!

Can't find much aside from "Tanks"

Maybe depends on what Ukraine asks for? I'm sure they could repair Ukrainian tanks currently employed as well, such as T-Series.

Criss could probably find out more than me.

400 Leopard 2's a year seems like a lot so I doubt it's all Leopard's.

crissindahouse said:

Man I wouldn't like to work in a factory which Russia wants to destroy but I guess still better than fighting at the frontline. Let's hope they can defend it. I guess Rheínmetall will also place some own air defense around the factory. They definitely have systems for that especially made to defend military buildings

Does Rheinmetall make the IRIS-T?

You're right, Russia will definitely try to seek this out, fuel for their local propaganda if they take out a German manufacturer, that's if they aren't too distracted by their disgusting and tactically useless attacks on civilians.

Need more air defence!

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The moment Erdogan's election is over.

  • Publicly backs Ukraine for NATO.
  • Released 5 highly valuable Ukrainian Commanders, violating the deal he had with Russia.
  • Agrees to allow Sweden's NATO ascension to go ahead.

Rough couple weeks for Putin. Erdogan shows once again, how much of a snake he is and he doesn't seem to be afraid of any payback Russia could issue via Syria anymore. Russia continues to diminish on the world stage.

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I've asked Bandorr if we can possibly add a Thread embed option, FWIW...

No promises though.





BAE Systems has secured new orders from the UK to boost production of munitions as western governments seek to alleviate a global shortage that is hampering Ukraine's fight against Russia.

The £280mn agreement, which could increase in value to more than £400mn, will enable Britain's biggest defence contractor to raise its production capacity of key 155mm artillery shells eight-fold.



Ryuu96 said:
Zkuq said:

Does anyone have any idea about what kind of vehicles the plan is going to be manufacturing exactly? I know Rheinmetall from Leopard tanks, but do we have any actual knowledge yet? Anyway, great news (just like the situation with Sweden)!

Can't find much aside from "Tanks"

Maybe depends on what Ukraine asks for? I'm sure they could repair Ukrainian tanks currently employed as well, such as T-Series.

Criss could probably find out more than me.

400 Leopard 2's a year seems like a lot so I doubt it's all Leopard's.

crissindahouse said:

Man I wouldn't like to work in a factory which Russia wants to destroy but I guess still better than fighting at the frontline. Let's hope they can defend it. I guess Rheínmetall will also place some own air defense around the factory. They definitely have systems for that especially made to defend military buildings

Does Rheinmetall make the IRIS-T?

You're right, Russia will definitely try to seek this out, fuel for their local propaganda if they take out a German manufacturer, that's if they aren't too distracted by their disgusting and tactically useless attacks on civilians.

Need more air defence!

They have Oerlikon Skynex which is a modular system and can be used with ground to air rockets, guns, lasers and so on.

The ground to air rocket system SkyKnight which can be integrated in the system is specifically made to defend certain buildings/areas from saturation attacks with up to 60 rockets in one battery