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“All Nato allies have agreed that Ukraine will become a member,” he said. “President Zelenskiy has a very clear expectation, we discussed this.

All NATO Members Have Agreed Ukraine Will Eventually Join, Says Stoltenberg | Nato | The Guardian

Actually laughed out loud, it's like, all NATO allies, oops, we forgot about Hungary but nobody cares about Orban's opinion.

If the rest of NATO wants Ukraine in then there's fuck all Hungary can do about it, they will be alone and cave to pressure as always.

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 21 April 2023

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1. Germany and the Netherlands provide Ukraine with more mine rollers, vehicles and fuel tanks.

2. Allies will conduct training for tankers, as well as for air defense operators (Abrams tanks will arrive in Germany in a few weeks).

3. The West handed Ukraine already more than 230 tanks and 1,500 other armored vehicles to equip 9 armored brigades.

4. A Leopard 2 Service Center will be created in Poland.

5. Ukraine received green light for cooperation with the NATO procurement agency.

6. Allies are ready to support Ukraine as long as necessary.


Ryuu96 said:

“All Nato allies have agreed that Ukraine will become a member,” he said. “President Zelenskiy has a very clear expectation, we discussed this.

All NATO Members Have Agreed Ukraine Will Eventually Join, Says Stoltenberg | Nato | The Guardian

Actually laughed out loud, it's like, all NATO allies, oops, we forgot about Hungary but nobody cares about Orban's opinion.

If the rest of NATO wants Ukraine in then there's fuck all Hungary can do about it, they will be alone and cave to pressure as always.

What's Hungary's problem with Ukraine?



CaptainExplosion said:
Ryuu96 said:

“All Nato allies have agreed that Ukraine will become a member,” he said. “President Zelenskiy has a very clear expectation, we discussed this.

All NATO Members Have Agreed Ukraine Will Eventually Join, Says Stoltenberg | Nato | The Guardian

Actually laughed out loud, it's like, all NATO allies, oops, we forgot about Hungary but nobody cares about Orban's opinion.

If the rest of NATO wants Ukraine in then there's fuck all Hungary can do about it, they will be alone and cave to pressure as always.

What's Hungary's problem with Ukraine?

Orban and Putin are bezzies.

But Orban knows what side his bread is buttered on, the dude will whine about the West but when Hungary is on their own, Orban always folds like the coward he is and gets in line, unlike Erdogan...If Turkey wants Ukraine in NATO then Orban won't do shit.



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Ryuu96 said:
CaptainExplosion said:

What's Hungary's problem with Ukraine?

Orban and Putin are bezzies.

But Orban knows what side his bread is buttered on, the dude will whine about the West but when Hungary is on their own, Orban always folds like the coward he is and gets in line, unlike Erdogan...If Turkey wants Ukraine in NATO then Orban won't do shit.

He should consider himself lucky we're not training Ukraine troops to take out Hungarians.



CaptainExplosion said:
Ryuu96 said:

Orban and Putin are bezzies.

But Orban knows what side his bread is buttered on, the dude will whine about the West but when Hungary is on their own, Orban always folds like the coward he is and gets in line, unlike Erdogan...If Turkey wants Ukraine in NATO then Orban won't do shit.

He should consider himself lucky we're not training Ukraine troops to take out Hungarians.

Nah man, I don't know what Hungarians think of him, Orban being a dickhead doesn't necessarily reflect on Hungarians.

If Hungarians largely agree with Orban then I'd happily swap Hungary out for Ukraine but no need to threaten them with violence.

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 21 April 2023

Ryuu96 said:
CaptainExplosion said:

He should consider himself lucky we're not training Ukraine troops to take out Hungarians.

Nah man, I don't know what Hungarians think of him, Orban being a dickhead doesn't necessarily reflect on Hungarians.

If Hungarians largely agree with Orban then I'd happily swap Hungary out for Ukraine but no need to threaten them with violence.

No leader who supports Putin can be trusted.



Dude, sometimes I think you aren't much better as those you despise so much. All you post here since weeks/months is some kind of "let's hope to see people die". You also seem to put all humans of a country in one pot just because a part of them are assholes. Most don't even have a clue because of decades of manipulation.



crissindahouse said:

Dude, sometimes I think you aren't much better as those you despise so much. All you post here since weeks/months is some kind of "let's hope to see people die". You also seem to put all humans of a country in one pot just because a part of them are assholes. Most don't even have a clue because of decades of manipulation.

Not sure if you’re referring to anyone in particular or grouping us all together.
If you mean what CaptainExplosion said a few posts up, I agree with your point.

In wider terms, I can only speak for myself. Yes, I‘d rather the war never happened but it has. Putin and his cronies in government are the real villains and whilst I don’t wish death on all Russians I certainly wish to see Russia defeated in this war. And decades of manipulation or not, so of the views of some Russian citizens that filter out to the western media are disgusting. That is offset somewhat by those who have been willing to speak out since fleeing Russia.