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EpicRandy said:
Ryuu96 said:

Jesus. Another day of large losses, I think Ukraine is just holding the lines whilst killing hordes of Russians for now.

You beat me to it, was just about to post this.

Those are just insane losses.

Ukraine might have successfully reach some kind of threshold were they have crippled the Russian so much that their combat effectiveness is no more? Or Ukraine is just mowing down fresh conscript?

Bit of both, I'd say, the 'legendary' VDV suffered heavy losses right at the start, the 1st Guards Tank Army who were meant to "counter NATO" suffered heavy losses in the retreat from Kharkiv. From the collapse around Kyiv to the collapse around Kharkiv, I would guess that a huge chunk of Russia's "professional" army has been severely downgraded to the point of a lot of them being combat ineffective.

A large chunk of Russia's remaining professional troops is in the Kherson region and Ukraine is starting to get a draw in artillery quantity but an advantage in artillery range. Russia is desperately throwing bodies at the issue as well though, useless and untrained prisoners and conscripts in a desperate attempt to slow Ukraine down but there's few skilled leaders left to lead them, they're just being sent into slaughter.

So, while it is mostly conscripts being killed it seems, it's a bit of both because there's fewer and fewer professional Russian troops to lead them, to train them, Russia's combat effectiveness overall is dropping, and their only solution seems to be throw as many bodies at the problem as possible and kill civilians.

Don't think Ukraine has to move at this stage, it looks like the counteroffensives have come to a halt, but we always expected this to happen thanks to the conscripts and mud season, but Ukraine doesn't have to rush things, they can hold the lines and just kill the hordes coming at them in well-fortified positions.



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What security doing.



Roughly 6.5% of Ukraine was occupied pre–Feb 2022.

Equates to Russia capturing 10.8% of land since February 2022.



EpicRandy said:

You beat me to it, was just about to post this.

Those are just insane losses.

Why the surprise? They are sending cannon fodder to the front lines.

Guess what? Cannon fodder turns out to be cannon fodder.

Same thing as in WWI with freshmen sent into the trenches. If they survived the first 2-3 days, they had a good chance to survive a few months.





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Ryuu96 said:

What?

I.. don't even know how to begin to respond to something this dumb. And random.



S.Peelman said:

What?

I.. don't even know how to begin to respond to something this dumb. And random.

NATO, operating through the Rand Corporation, in conjunction with the saucer people, under the supervision of the reverse vampires, created the sitcom Friends in 1994 to wedge something called a “generation gap” within Russia, which transformed the youth into gazpacho-liberal-avocado toasters, to destroy motivation for the invasion of Ukraine!



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Lol. Fuck off.

How pathetic from the Russian army, begging Ukraine (a country with no Navy) to not attack their Black Sea Fleet anymore and hiding behind grain ships, whilst still bombing Ukraine with those ships.

The grain ships don't need the Black Sea fleet.

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Is that Black Sea Fleet thing even real? How could anyone possibly suggest their enemy guarantee the safety of the war equipment bombarding them? I was going to ask if they're drunk, but I think the real question is how drunk they are instead. "Hey guys, please let us kill you so we don't get blamed for the famine we're going to cause otherwise."