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Bofferbrauer2 said:
Ryuu96 said:

The gall they have for such an accusation while they didn't respect another country's territorial integrity and invaded it outright...

And they even attack from another country (Belarus) and use "modern" weapons from Iran and all of that not only in the areas they claim as their territory but also even in the West of Ukraine where almost no Russians live. But sure, NATO isn't respecting territorial integrity. 

Now they threaten Israel that helping Ukraine would destroy ties with Moscow. To me that sounds like "damn if Israel will send air defense we are fucked so let's blackmail them as well"

It would be so awesome if Poland would just say "let's go in" and place some troops in Ukraine to the border of Belarus. They just have to use the same argument Belarus uses as why Russia's troops are in Belarus. Poland won't do it but they would be damn heroes. Just defend what could possibly come from Belarus. Hard for Belarus to complain if they let Russia in their country.  

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EpicRandy said:
Ryuu96 said:

Maximum sanctions for Iran.

Looks like Ukraine success rate in downing drones in massive drones strike around Kyiv have gone from about 50% all the way up to 70%+ in a week or so. Pretty impressive.

Too bad the defense costs probably way more than those cheap drones. As example the new air defense system they got from Germany uses rockets which cost more than 250k each. Those drones are probably cheaper as what the air defense systems use to shoot them down...



A lot cheaper, I saw about $20k. Ukraine is having to 'waste' a lot of expensive ammo to take them down and Iran has thousands. Hopefully the West can keep up with ammo production. Russia will probably try to deplete Ukraine's ammo and then go in with a stronger strike on a valuable target if they were smart. Or just keep killing civilians because they're Nazi fucks.





If only someone would blow that facility up...



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Belarus talking way too much about "preventive measures" to defend the country lately. Especially with some hundred Russian tanks and some thousand soldiers sent to Belarus lately. Around a month ago I've read on Twitter from some Ukrainian (not sure who that was anymore) that there is some information about Belarus joining the war in November. Doesn't sound too unrealistic anymore even if it's just to fuck up Ukraine's planning and logistics. 



crissindahouse said:

Belarus talking way too much about "preventive measures" to defend the country lately. Especially with some hundred Russian tanks and some thousand soldiers sent to Belarus lately. Around a month ago I've read on Twitter from some Ukrainian (not sure who that was anymore) that there is some information about Belarus joining the war in November. Doesn't sound too unrealistic anymore even if it's just to fuck up Ukraine's planning and logistics. 

Posturing, Imho.

We've actually seen videos of tanks being sent from Belarus to Russia. Thousands of soldiers have been sent to Belarus though.

Looking at the facts, the actual combat ready Belarusian army is small, it's even worse equipped and trained than the Russians and they have very little combat experience, to put it bluntly, the Belarusian army is a joke.

Back in February, Russia threw a lot at Kyiv, and Ukraine was not fully prepared as some of Ukraine didn't believe Russia would invade and what happened? Russia was sent through a meatgrinder in the North and completely collapsed.

Now Ukraine has had months of training for this exact scenario, the bridges are primed, the border is mined to shit, Ukraine is better prepared and better equipped than when they fought Russia's troops at the start of the war.

They'll get absolutely slaughtered; Ukraine will light up the borders and a few Belarusian airfields are within range of HIMARS and with the Belarus army dealt with, Lukashenko is in deep trouble in a country that hates him and only recently had massive protests against him.

There's already been reports of defections in Belarus military when they believed they were about to be sent to war, along with people sabotaging Belarus railways. The Belarus army will be even less motivated than Russia to fight Ukraine and they'll be a lot of defections.

So, I do believe it's just posturing, it's to keep Ukraine's forces on the border with Belarus and away from the frontlines but if Belarus ever entered the actual war, Lukashenko would be fucked as he'd no longer have an army to protect him.

Also, it would be absolutely insane to start an invasion in Winter, Lol. They don't have much time left.

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If Belarus is that fucking insane though, even more insane than Russia starting the war to begin with, I hope America finally gives Ukraine ATACMS and tells them they can target Belarus (cause what the fuck is Belarus going to do about it?)



Iran is really pissing me off.

Hopefully Israel pulls their finger out and hurries up with sending Ukraine weapons.

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 17 October 2022