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I would miss Blizzard's IP's if MS forced me to move my Battlenet account to an Xbox one, as well as having to use UWP or even having my previously bought games tied to any MS app.

I don't see MS leaving Battlenet the way it is, now that they own it and they are all about their eco-system ideal, they'll naturally want to replace Battlenet with Xbox instead, and I really don't like nor want that.



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Azzanation said:
DonFerrari said:

Sure Xbox made 80B in profits but we never heard of them, sure.

Nintendo and Playstation in their best years probably make 3B USD on profit. But you want us to believe Xbox was making enough profit that they covered those purchases themselves? You jest right?

I never said they made $80b, don't be silly. You mentioned they didn't cover the cost for these companies.

Your exact quote "Xbox haven't done the profits to buy mohjang, zenimax nor activision." And i proved that Halo alone has made over $5b which covers more than the Minecraft acquisition. That's just one IP, not including the profits straight from Live all those years ago. They would of made the money for the Bethesda and Mojang acquisitions just from the Xbox brand, however the Activison Blizzard acquisition will be focused around the GP long term subs etc. 

You also forget that MS have been profiting with subscriptions long before Sony and Nintendo implemented it. The entire 360 era, they were making billions off Gold Live. Or do you like to ignore that small detail in your arguments?

Still confused? Sony made $12b off PSN, DLC and Digital games in 2019. Now think about this, Xbox has been doing this online system aswell and their subscription model has been around a lot longer, so do the maths.

Also MS/Xbox don't announce profits from Gold and subs, thats why you never heard of it.

You confuse Revenue with Profit, nothing else to discuss. That old new about Halo was that it had a revenue of 5B (which included consoles bundled together) never that it had a 5B in profit.

Go and look at the annual statement from Sony or Nintendo (and seems like you want to pretend Xbox had more profit than then) and see what the real profit (not revenue) was during the past 5 years and you'll see that for certain Xbox didn't do over 80B in profit on the past decade.

Last edited by DonFerrari - on 24 January 2022

duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Pemalite said:

None. I own every platform.

Answer as if you only had one console and that wouldn't receive the console games from Acti/Blizz, you may even include PC titles that aren't usually on consoles if you wish.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

the only game interesting in that list is Crash.



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DonFerrari said:
Pemalite said:

None. I own every platform.

Answer as if you only had one console and that wouldn't receive the console games from Acti/Blizz, you may even include PC titles that aren't usually on consoles if you wish.

PC. So I still don't miss out on anything.




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None of them?

I used to enjoy Blizzard games back in the day, but I don't know if any of them are good anymore since they merged with Activision. I can only imagine that game quality will degrade even more now that they are acquired by Microsoft. I've never actually played Diablo 2 or Warcraft 3 though, even though they both look fun. Perhaps I should buy copies of them now, before they are potentially not available anymore?



Runa216 said:

You know what's funny? Prior to this I didn't give a shit about Activision or Blizzard, as both were on my shit-list of devs/publishers I won't buy from. Them and EA, with a handful of exceptions (I did get spyro Reignited and the Crash n-Sane trilogy, as well as stuff like It Takes Two and Unravel and even Jedi Fallen Order from EA). But now? Now I'm just pissed because of this. I won't miss anything of theirs, I don't personally care, but it still feels wrong.

and as usual, bringing it up on Twitter has morons going 'but sony does this toooooo!' not realizing there's a world of difference between Sony buying Bluepoint and Housemarque and Insomniac and Sucker Punch (All companies that heavily and almost exclusively worked with Sony prior) and Microsoft buying Zenimax and Activision-Blizzard, two companies that sell better on Ps4 and prior to this almost exclusively did multiplatform games. (Yeah, Morrowind was Xbox exclusive, but that was what, 2003? That's a whole different scenario.)

I just don't like the idea that a company can just throw money at their problems to BUY existing franchises instead of investing in developers and naturally growing their portfolio. It bugs me, becuase it means a company that's just in it for the money will have more influence on the market, and that's how we get shit like loot boxes and microtransactions and having to pay for online.

Oh please, these companies are ALL just in it for the money. Did you miss where Sony and Nintendo have pay to play online? Ever heard of Amiibo? Have you ever played Last of Us online? Did you like the SP content of Destruction All-Stars being locked behind microtransactions? Are you going to be paying for your upgraded Uncharted PS4 games in a couple days on PS5? 

Also you forgot Naughty Dog and Guerrilla on your list of studios Sony bought, regardless of what excuses or qualifiers you want to add. But I’d be interested in reading how you think MS could have built a working relationship of exclusive content with a company like Activision Blizzard before buying them, all while Activision Blizzard was shopping themselves around looking for a buyer? 



The_Liquid_Laser said:

None of them?

I used to enjoy Blizzard games back in the day, but I don't know if any of them are good anymore since they merged with Activision. I can only imagine that game quality will degrade even more now that they are acquired by Microsoft. I've never actually played Diablo 2 or Warcraft 3 though, even though they both look fun. Perhaps I should buy copies of them now, before they are potentially not available anymore?

The downturn came when they merged with Activision around 2008 with Bobby Kotick at the helm. I really hope the guy gets the boot sooner rather than later.

Though saying that a lot of talent has already left the Blizzard studios (main devs working on WoW). So only time will tell if they can go back to their hey-day. Hopefully now they're more free from the shackles of Activision, they can go back to making exceptional games.

Last edited by hinch - on 25 January 2022

hinch said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:

None of them?

I used to enjoy Blizzard games back in the day, but I don't know if any of them are good anymore since they merged with Activision. I can only imagine that game quality will degrade even more now that they are acquired by Microsoft. I've never actually played Diablo 2 or Warcraft 3 though, even though they both look fun. Perhaps I should buy copies of them now, before they are potentially not available anymore?

The downturn came when they merged with Activision around 2008 with Bobby Kotick at the helm. I really hope the guy gets the boot sooner rather than later.

Though saying that a lot of talent has already left the Blizzard studios (main devs working on WoW). So only time will tell if they can go back to their hey-day. Hopefully now they're from the shackles of Activision they can go back to making exceptional games.

On talent I have no doubt the merger made both companies worse and Bobby is likely the main reason. But on the profitability I have the impression they have grow a lot in the same period. Like we can hate the man for who he is and what he done as gamers, but for stockholders they were probably happy (if not they would have sacked him long ago).



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:
hinch said:

The downturn came when they merged with Activision around 2008 with Bobby Kotick at the helm. I really hope the guy gets the boot sooner rather than later.

Though saying that a lot of talent has already left the Blizzard studios (main devs working on WoW). So only time will tell if they can go back to their hey-day. Hopefully now they're from the shackles of Activision they can go back to making exceptional games.

On talent I have no doubt the merger made both companies worse and Bobby is likely the main reason. But on the profitability I have the impression they have grow a lot in the same period. Like we can hate the man for who he is and what he done as gamers, but for stockholders they were probably happy (if not they would have sacked him long ago).

All of its franchises have been setting records for revenue despite in some cases (World of Warcraft being the big one) declining playerbase numbers. 

I think the Activision merger with Blizzard gets overstated though being the cause of Blizzard’s decline in quality. A lot of the poor choices made by blizzard over the last 10 years were just pure incompetence and made completely independently of activision management. 

in fact, activision apparently didn’t step in to run things until about 2018 or so. Blizzard had multiple projects being incubated that all turned out nothing usable, and that’s when activision decided to put their foot down and reign Blizzard in