Is there any system with more 10 million+ sellers than the Switch?
How many First Party Nintendo Games will exceed 10 million at the end of Switch's Life? | |||
| <55 | 18 | 25.00% | |
| 55 | 0 | 0% | |
| 56 | 5 | 6.94% | |
| 57 | 1 | 1.39% | |
| 58 | 4 | 5.56% | |
| 59 | 2 | 2.78% | |
| 60 | 8 | 11.11% | |
| 61 | 3 | 4.17% | |
| 62 | 5 | 6.94% | |
| >62 | 26 | 36.11% | |
| Total: | 72 | ||
Is there any system with more 10 million+ sellers than the Switch?
@Olivernintentoal Thanks for catching that! When I updated Switch Sports, I forgot to delete the original amount from the last update, so the next columns added both numbers together. Fixed now.
@killer7 Highly unlikely! (At least not until Switch 2 if all goes well lol.) There have been 21 Switch games (so far) that have exceeded 10m, so basically look at any other system's top 20 to compare. I don't even think any system had this many 20m sellers (almost 10). Tied with the Wii with four 30m sellers (I feel confident that Odyssey will pass 30m in its lifetime and probably pass NSMB & NSMB Wii). More 40m+ sellers than any other system, I'd imagine. Of course the Wii's top selller still beats Switch's top seller, but imagine if MK8 DX was being sold with the Switch as often as Wii Sports was with the Wii.
Kirby and the Forgotten Land was at 7.5 million as of this March, after two years on the market; it's getting discounted this holiday, and with the Switch 2 confirmed to be backwards compatible, I'd say it has a shot at passing 10 million lifetime.
Mario Maker 2 is also getting a holiday discount, and was at 8.42 million at the end of 2022; 10m lifetime should happen there too.
@curl-6 I agree with both. I still believe those games will cross 10m. Also Z-A and Jamboree. That would all be 25 Switch games exceeding 10m sales (not counting the likes of MH: Rise & Minecraft). We'll probably get an update on Kirby before the FY ends because I imagine it will sell 1m this FY. Can only see updates to Mario Maker 2 coming from CESA, assuming they will still provide that information when they release next month. I see no reason why they won't still provide that information. I believe people said the new book will cost more money, so I can't see it costing more with less information.
| Torpoleon said: @curl-6 I agree with both. I still believe those games will cross 10m. Also Z-A and Jamboree. That would all be 25 Switch games exceeding 10m sales (not counting the likes of MH: Rise & Minecraft). We'll probably get an update on Kirby before the FY ends because I imagine it will sell 1m this FY. Can only see updates to Mario Maker 2 coming from CESA, assuming they will still provide that information when they release next month. I see no reason why they won't still provide that information. I believe people said the new book will cost more money, so I can't see it costing more with less information. |
Yeah Jamboree and Pokémon should be a sure thing, I agree with your assessment; I kinda doubt there are any more first party Switch games left to be announced that could clear 10m.
25 would be an incredibly impressive total.
If i am not mistaken, excluding 2D Mario, Pokémon and Donkey Kong, every first Party franchise had its best selling game on Switch. Even Metroid Dread did 3,07 million (maybe even a little more). What are your thoughts on MP4B.? Might it pass 3 million? Personally i'd give it a 3- 5 million range. I don't think its cross gen. Pokémon Z-A will be 10 million+ minimum, also Pokémon Gen 10 in late 2026. It's highly likley that its cross gen, but i think it will pass 10 million on Switch Up alone. Not on the current Switch, but it wouldn't shock me if it did...
@killer7 That generally seems to be the case regarding best sellers. I can't think of anything else off the top of my head outside 2D Mario, Pokemon and DK. Maybe Wario? Should we count Switch Sports VS Wii Sports? I do think Prime 4 will comfortably be the best selling Metroid game. 3-5m seems like a good estimate. Maybe a little bit higher. And definitely even higher than that if it gets a Switch 2 upgrade later down the road. I don't see it being likely for Gen 10 to be crossgen.
| Torpoleon said: @killer7 That generally seems to be the case regarding best sellers. I can't think of anything else off the top of my head outside 2D Mario, Pokemon and DK. Maybe Wario? Should we count Switch Sports VS Wii Sports? I do think Prime 4 will comfortably be the best selling Metroid game. 3-5m seems like a good estimate. Maybe a little bit higher. And definitely even higher than that if it gets a Switch 2 upgrade later down the road. I don't see it being likely for Gen 10 to be crossgen. |
For me nearly everything points to a cross release. There's absolutley no way Nintendo will ignore an 155- 160 million+ userbase at the 30. anniversary of Pokémon. Switch won't be killed after its launch. For Metroid Prime 4 Beyond, i only see it higher than 5 million, if it gets a multiplayer, wich could deffinitly happen. But for sure no less than 3 million.
killer7 said:
For me nearly everything points to a cross release. There's absolutley no way Nintendo will ignore an 155- 160 million+ userbase at the 30. anniversary of Pokémon. Switch won't be killed after its launch. For Metroid Prime 4 Beyond, i only see it higher than 5 million, if it gets a multiplayer, wich could deffinitly happen. But for sure no less than 3 million. |
Agreed I could definitely see gen 10 pokemon being cross gen. One final big game for Switch half a year into its post-life phase. In terms of hardware sales, Switch will be dead by then except for a few Lites still being sold to kids or impulse/budget buyers, but tens of millions of people are still gonna be playing their Switch so I could definitely see Nintendo / Game Freak wanting to take advantage of that.
On the other hand I'd like to see Game Freak actually develop the hell out of the next Pokemon and be like hey this game is way too advanced to run on Switch. Also wouldn't mind them moving to a four year release schedule so they have more time with each game which would put it at holiday 2026 release, in which case nah it wouldn't be cross gen.
@Slownenberg I wasn't agreeing that Gen 10 should be a cross-release though. I am of the belief that it should be Switch 2 only. It will probably launch by holiday 2026. Similarly, we had LGPE in Switch's second holiday, which did not release on 3DS. I feel like that's ample time for a Switch 2 only release, especially in the 30th anniversary. Maybe they could release or announce Gen 1-3 main series releases for both Switch & Switch 2 beginning that year (I could see Gen 1-3 being on both systems).
With the leaks stating that Z-A was originally planned to be released in 2024, I bet TPCi is wishing they moved Arceus to Holiday 2022, SV to Holiday 2023 and SV DLC to 2024. Would've given the Switch a big release for holiday 2023 and given those games more development time. Literally everything Pokemon-related needed these games delayed. The anime could've had more time with Ash's final season. Sales of existing core series games would've even been higher than they already are. Would not be surprised if Arceus would be a 20m seller in this scenario. BDSP & LGPE likely would've outsold BW by now (assuming they haven't already done it but we don't know for sure just yet).
I do agree that they should move to a 4 year schedule though and hopefully not be shy to have a remake outsourced.