It's fun to watch the libertarian left slip more and more into the authoritarian left and then find out they cannot be both at the same time. Fighting for free self expression by oppressing self expression just doesn't fit. Sadly they will never realize the irony.

You know what? It is ultimately irrelevant to me what reproductive organs someone has/doesn't have and thus it's ultimately irrelevant if someone is Trans.
It is also ultimately irrelevant to me what colour skin someone has/doesn't have, it's ultimately a pointless aspect to point out.

It's only an *issue* because people point out that particular aspect of a person and *make* it an issue. - Those who do that need to grow up.

It's good practice to treat other people equally and mind your own business, just be supportive of them and stop bringing them down... At the end of the day we all bleed the same colour of blood and we all deserve dignity and respect. - We are all going to be different, each and every single one of us.

And those who bring down the trans or other communities by accusing their "status" as bullshit is not being dignified or respectful, you are not being constructive, you are just bringing down other people to make yourself feel better.
Start working on issues in your own backyard... Because I can assure you... You probably aren't perfect either.

Either way, just tagging in just to keep an eye on this thread.

Those words are absolutely true and people should live by them. However I do still do it out of sheer self defense. "bringing down other people to make yourself feel better" is exactly what the people are doing I'm defending myself against. Religions have brought nothing but pain to this world and I will try to fight them off as best as I can and I I promise will ignore them as soon as they stop trying to hurt me.

I don't get any of the cultural appropriation issues. Maybe that's because I am white and European.

In my view, culture is only has value if it is shared and extended. If a Chinese lady plays Mozart, that's fine. If a rapper uses a Shakespeare quote, that's fine too. The moment you limit or restrict artistic ideas, they die, because ideas that don't evolve with the time cease to be relevant.

This has been debated for a long time, from what I can tell majority born, then a few by choice for various personal reasons.

Let's look at it from a history point of view before technological advancement. It was natures way of population control. Now you can just make a test tube baby with donors so any gay couple could have a child in theory. 

Ancient Rome/Greece, were they homosexual that were married to women? Or just an acceptable practice for straight males to have male partners too since on usually took on the dominant role the other was more feminine? Was straight, gay even terms back then? Or was it simply, if you want a child you have to mate with a woman, of you want just sex do it with whoever? At what point in history in these cultures suddenly homosexuality become bad? 

Similar with this scenario, lets look at an extreme, say you were adopted as a baby by a black family, and you have red hair, freckles, white skin etc.. Now you were raised in such an environment. Are you going to lean towards feeling like you belong to the black race? or will you feel like the odd one out? Are black people going to look at you funny and call you crazy, or will they accept that you were adopted and see you as part of their race? What about if the situation was reverse and it was a black baby in a white home?

Personally i feel like everything in the last 10 years has gone way to far. We have lost the concept of we are all humans and suddenly every small variance has a label. LBGT was just that, now how many letters are in that group? Facebook at one stage (not sure if it still does, had 50+ genders), some were basically the same with short or long spelling because people were offended by the spelling even so they created multiple options. 

It went all downhill when LGB added the T, which had nothing to do with their original message.

This discussion has brought an interesting thought into my mind. People are talking about weather you are born a certain way or not, but I ask myself how many people were born a certain way but never got to experience who they are because of social oppression. Homo- and bisexuality are probably way more common than people think. There are probably millions of people who don't even know they are because they never dared to explore themselves and their desires.

Which makes it so heartbreaking to see that the transgender community has completely taken over the conversation, hurting both homosexuals and heterosexuals with their stupid gender stereotypes while getting to pretend that they do the opposite.

Ah yes forgot about bisexuals. I know a girl who has explored but in her home country she would never have done it. I think she still fears what her family would think. TBH i don't know if she has landed on a position what she is because of it and you can't really talk about it with her because she finds it awkward and sometimes is in denial. 

The next thing I will say will probably sound shallow, but I think it is a good way to put things into perspective for people that fear the unknown and ho might be reading. I don't know why to this day a straight person would care if someone from their same gender is gay. There is no logical reason for it. Let's be honest dating has a lot of luck element to it. Sure trying hard gets you more dates but to find a person you can click with is real hard and all about being at the right place at the right time, especially if you have to live with them for many year/life if you get married. If your competition narrows because people are born gay, how is that a bad thing? Better odds for you finding the right person for you. In cultures where you mentioned oppression happens, gay people marry the opposite sex are not happy and in turn the straight person struggles also to find anyone suitable.  If those places allowed those people to explore their sexuality, than your mr/mrs right might not have been taken into an unexpected relationship that their partner is lying to them about what they really want and putting on a fake smile like the relationship is strong as ever. Now i won't pretend I haven't been upset to find out some women are gay. But not because i find it disgusting but because when I was single I was like damn would have been fun to get to know her at an intimate level.

Sure seems to me like the people calling transracialism BS today are the type of folks who will be dubbed bigots by the next generation. Progressive movements don't stop when you come of age, after all: they "progress."

The reason why it bothers so many people is really simple. As with most social issues the underlying cause are gender stereotypes. The good old masculinity and femininity. Children are raised with the belief that the genital that you are born with mandates your behavior and that everything that doesn't adhere to the stereotypes is weird and shameful. Being intimate with anything but your designated opposite gender does not fall neatly into masculine or feminine tropes. People are being bullied and harassed for being a "sissy" or a "butch". That is toxic genderism and is basically indistinguishable from racism. People are getting shamed for what they are born with, are treated like sub humans if they don't confine themselves into the ready made definitions of what is "proper".

Homosexuals and bisexuals have been fighting for their right of self expression for millennia and then some asshats come along who not only strongly support gender stereotypes but actively try to force them on everyone. Gender stereotypes are in their nature restrictive and become oppressive when they are socially enforced. Guess who is the loudest voice today trying to enforce gender sterotypes, correct, it's the TQ+ crowd who are not strong enough to fight for equality and rather use the existing stereotypes to fit their needs. So instead of crushing labels, they try to force everyone into theirs to make themselves feel "normal", except that their "normal" is completely contrived and against the nature of humans, or all living beings.

Gender dysphoria is real. Race is a social construct (and a sloppy one at that). Not the same thing.