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--OkeyDokey-- said:

Whoa, serious Deja Vu right now.

Metroid fans in 2001: "Oh noez they killed Metroid! They took away everything that made the franchise great and turned it into a generic run and gun shooter! Fuck you Retro!"

Metroid fans in 2002: "ZOMG best game EVAR!!!!!"

...

How about you all just give Bethesda a chance before condemning them to hell?


 Nah, I prefer prejudice and Bethesda-bashing!



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Fallout 3 will have game play similar to Oblivion. Many people will hate this. Is Fallout 3 an Oblivion clone?



Fallout 3 will be a good game. But it wont be a good Fallout. I want to play fallout. Not Oblivion with guns. Their is a difference between changing gameplay dynamics and changing the soul of the game. Fallout was about freedom, consequences, meaningful dialogue, great storylines, dark humor. People always mention child killing because it illustrates a point. Its the personification of what fallout is. Its a gritty dirty and sadistically funny game. Removing that and replacing it with superficial choices etc (lets be honest bethesda games have never been about choice, don't let the large world fool you). The point about mario said earlier defiantly rings true. If they stopped making mario galaxy style games and replaced it with a violent FPS you'd all be crying about it. Making Mario disgustingly violent changes what mario is. Conversely making fallout less violent, less gritty, less funny etc is changing the soul of the series. Us fallout fans aren't saying its going to be a bad game. Its just not going to be Fallout. Which is a crying shame.

BTW. To those people that say that it would be banned if it was made like it should be. I know it would be. which is a shame. BUt Bethesda should have thought about that BEFORE they purchased the IP. Fallout as an IP makes no sense for Bethesda. So instead of creating their own new IP they'r ruining a much beloved one.





FaRmLaNd said:
Fallout 3 will be a good game. But it wont be a good Fallout. I want to play fallout. Not Oblivion with guns. Their is a difference between changing gameplay dynamics and changing the soul of the game. Fallout was about freedom, consequences, meaningful dialogue, great storylines, dark humor. People always mention child killing because it illustrates a point. Its the personification of what fallout is. Its a gritty dirty and sadistically funny game. Removing that and replacing it with superficial choices etc (lets be honest bethesda games have never been about choice, don't let the large world fool you). The point about mario said earlier defiantly rings true. If they stopped making mario galaxy style games and replaced it with a violent FPS you'd all be crying about it. Making Mario disgustingly violent changes what mario is. Conversely making fallout less violent, less gritty, less funny etc is changing the soul of the series. Us fallout fans aren't saying its going to be a bad game. Its just not going to be Fallout. Which is a crying shame.

BTW. To those people that say that it would be banned if it was made like it should be. I know it would be. which is a shame. BUt Bethesda should have thought about that BEFORE they purchased the IP. Fallout as an IP makes no sense for Bethesda. So instead of creating their own new IP they'r ruining a much beloved one.




 Yes and yes

 

I hope that it will be better than Fallout Tactics though 



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You know, I really think it's funny how people seem to believe that Fallout 3 is butchering the series when Fallout Tactics and Fallout Brotherhood of Steel have done that quite handily.



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flagship said:
You know, I really think it's funny how people seem to believe that Fallout 3 is butchering the series when Fallout Tactics and Fallout Brotherhood of Steel have done that quite handily.

They were spin-offs, and didn't have a 3 in it. Besides, Fallout Tactics was still a great game for it's type, tactical turn-based strategy (à la Jagged Alliance), and was a success commercially and critically.

But Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel actually got alot of bash from Fallout fans, and this game was the last nail in Interplay's coffin.



Aye, well put shio. It's especially so when early rumors had it that development funds were being pulled from Black Isle's Fallout 3 in order to support FO:BOS and a FO:BOS2. But aye, spin-offs can do whatever they want, but the insult is when they're called a direct sequel.



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Rath said:
Is it just me or is what Fallout 3 fans want a 'Fallout 2 - Rehashed edition'. No gameplay changes, no changes to 3D, no setting changes, basically Fallout 2 but with a new story?

None of us have said anything about keeping the game isometric or anything along those lines. We want Bethesda to keep the spirit of Fallout alive and they're not doing it. They're basically giving us future Oblivion with guns. That's not Fallout.


And lots of things others,  specially @shio, said that I agree with: 

I agree, I could even like a Morrowind- or Oblivion- -like game but put in a postnuclear setting, and I'm confident that in their own way Bethesda could do a good job, but I couldn't consider it a Fallout game. And yes, I think too that Fallout 2 (I haven't played Fallout 1) is highly moral, like in Planescape: Torment everything you do has consequences and although you can be tough, if needed, and like in reality you don't need to be a saint,  being a complete bastard will in the end ruin a lot of possible experiences and prevent you from enjoying a lot of interesting parts in the game. 

The only thing relieving me is that I'm  so behind in gaming that I'll buy and play Fallout 3 when it will have bargain price (and already accurately bug-fixed), so, at least for the price paid, it won't be able to deceive me much, provided that I can persuade myself that it's not a bad Fallout game, but a good whatever else game that incidentally bears a Fallout name.

That said, more to console myself than other, I feel a bitter taste, the only other thing making me feel better is that it looks like they won't go so far as the thugs that made Deus Ex's sequel a dumb game for moron lamers (luckily I read reviews by fans of the original and saved my money that time, but I'm still angry for wasting my money in Myth III and Prince of Persia: Sands of Time).

Well, but to think to better things, I have to find some time to continue playing Planescape: Torment, I'm still in the "Hive" but I alredy like it almost as much as Fallout 2 (perhaps I still prefer Fallout 2 for its atmosphere, less grim, still harsh, but with a hint of hope for a brave new world, with a protagonist that is looking for life, not death...).



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