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Answer the damned question!

Fantastic games 65 51.18%
 
100% backwards compatible with every Xbox 3 2.36%
 
VR Support 3 2.36%
 
Shockingly low price 21 16.54%
 
There's NOTHING they can do 31 24.41%
 
Other (please explain) 4 3.15%
 
Total:127

^^^

And yet people still prefer one over another for their own reasons. Well at least your post length went down considerably, so that’s progress :)



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sales2099 said:
eva01beserk said:

You percieve it as me discounting SoT(While I do really despise all multiplayer focused games). GP will probably keep growing, its a good bang for the buck. Of course it spiked. It just released on steam. the windows store is nothing in comparison to steam. What do you expect it to do? The thing is now where is gona settle. And as the numbers show, its droping. Patching is all well and good but remember "A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad." Shigeru Miyamoto. The game s you put it might be a good game now, but in everyone mind is still bad.

I’ll just say it’s possible to have a comeback. Rainbow Six Seige was deemed a failure after launch and it turned around nicely via extensive updates and tweaking. It doesn’t happen often and it shouldn’t have to come to that, but it is a nice surprise now and again.

Thats definetly true. And Again, im not saying SoT cant have that, just that we dont know yet. 



It takes genuine talent to see greatness in yourself despite your absence of genuine talent.

hinch said:
eva01beserk said:

I think thats where he is getting at. While there are people like you out there and nobody should tell you what to like, and you can be as hyped as you want. Everyone has their preferences and thats fine. But you seem to think that there are a mass amount off people like you out there, while you are in fact in the minority. While again, thats also fair to be. You seem to be hyping up a past and possible future that most do not like and are looking at what MS has presented and could show in the july event with just mistrust, denial, pessimism or whatever else.

Both have valid points but not everyone has the same tastes. While a lot of people may not find value in Xbox games and Halo, there is a significant amount of people who still do and love playing Halo and Xbox, today. I personally haven't touched an Xbox console since the 360 because the games don't suit my preference anymore.

It might be down to support for the consoles or lack of any interesting games that I would sit down, play and complete - when you own same brand of consoles two generations you kind of know what to expect. But they have expanded their Studios from the sounds of it they might be improving. MS might not make games your liking (and personally not my cup of tea anymore), but for Xbox gamers its gonna be exciting time indeed just as PS5 imminent launch is for PS gamers.

Who knows, we could have the biggest push for 1st party titles and support in the two decades they have been in the games industry. I mean if they show Fable 4 and Perfect Dark and it doesn't look like garbage to play (sorry 360 PD sucked) then I would be pretty excited too. Being mostly a PC gamer, and the direction Xbox is going in I would bet that most games going forward are going to be playable on PC as well, day one.

Of course they can. Sega can come out of nowhere and have a console and beat everybody. But the point is that history has shown us that its very unlikely to happen. So there should be less people like sales who are still waiting for greatness out of xbox and there should be a lot more people like Runa who are tired of waiting and have moved on. 



It takes genuine talent to see greatness in yourself despite your absence of genuine talent.

Runa216 said:
chakkra said:

I think you are just wasting your time with Runa. I mean, he just said that the only "decent" game on Xbox was Ori. That right there should tell you that he has such a strong conviction that there's absolutely nothing you, me, or anyone else could tell him.

I never said that, someone else did. If you're going to disparage me, do so for the things I'm actually saying or doing (Writing too much and being overly critical)

Oh! I truly apologize. I really meant Goopy. I just had finished reading one of your long posts and apparently had you on my subconscious :)



chakkra said:
Runa216 said:

I never said that, someone else did. If you're going to disparage me, do so for the things I'm actually saying or doing (Writing too much and being overly critical)

Oh! I truly apologize. I really meant Goopy. I just had finished reading one of your long posts and apparently had you on my subconscious :)

If he doesn’t agree with what goopy said there then idk why he wrote two essays explaining to me what goopy was right. That’s probably where your confusion was.



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sales2099 said:
goopy20 said:

Okay, maybe it really is just a freak coincidence that all the games MS has announced seemed to be a tailor fit for your taste in games, a 80 Metacritic game like Hellblade happens to be your favorite new ip - and only game you wanted to play so bad when it was a ps4 exclusive - even though you have no interest in any of Sony's 95+ Metacritic flagship exclusives because they're all just 3rd person story driven single player adventure games...

I honestly wouldn't know if MS's services are better than Sony's. I tried GP and it was great to play Gears 4/5 for $1. PS Now, I honestly don't give 2 shits about. Stuff like services are just a bonus to me and definitely not something a console platform should hang their hat on. In the end people will buy console X over Y because it has the games they care about. Sony caters to a wide audience with their exclusives and isn't afraid to take risks. Do I buy them all? Hell no, there are plenty of quality Sony exclusives I don't care about either. However, Sony has proven time and time again that they deliver with plenty of games and fresh ip's I do care about. MS, however, has pretty much done the opposite.

Like I said, I'm totally open minded and I do actually hope MS will prove me wrong in July. It's just that I got this gut feeling I'll be able to predict exactly what they'll be showing, and it's not going to be enough.

Well the second and last paragraph seem subjective enough to leave alone. Now I thought I explained my tastes and why I have them, how Xbox caters to it. Yet you remain unconvinced by Hellblade. Fair enough. 

I like Viking culture and time periods. Not fantastical like GOW but the actual Viking era. Really excited for Assassins Creed this year! Same goes for TV shows like Vikings and The Last Kingdom on Netflix. Something about being in such a primitive period and the drama that occurs draws me to it. This looked like a unique take on it while maintaining historical accuracy. Yet they balance that with the concept that the main character has paranoid schizophrenia with deep psychosis/hallucinations. The concept that people wouldn’t know how to react to such a thing in that period intrigues me and struck me as very original.  

It was billed as a shorter game which suited me fine. Again I’m not really into long 3rd person adventure games so this struck me as more intimate. The narrative possibilities of having multiple voices inside your head. The combat looked tense from what I’ve seen but the game wouldn’t over rely on it either. I liked that it was more about the journey and characters then the combat or puzzles. The idea that your save would be terminated if you died too much made me want to try my hardest with every encounter. I dont get that feeling much anymore with quick saves being a norm. Graphically I was also blown away. 

And then it came to Xbox and Ms bought the studio :)

Not to forget that games that rely heavily on story that will also be a point that may put someone really liking or disliking that game. If the theme of the game pleases you then you are much more likely to want to play that. Like Yakuza, it is an open world game, but I like the atmosphere so much that I done 100% in 0,1,2,6 and eager to do 3,4,5 likewise I don't have any wish to play GTA. I know that for metascore, sales, etc GTA is the better game but for my taste Yakuza will win.

Roma said:
people get easily hyped when it comes to Sony I mean the logo broke the internet, what does that tell you about the fans? Microsoft can easily beat them tbh. I think they kept the best for after what Sony would show which was not that exciting. To answer your question. Show Halo, Banjo, that open world game that i never seem to remember the name of.. Ever wild, ever world? Some turd parties and it would beat them :P

All the three have fans like that. It is just that likely Sony have a bigger fanbase.

Runa216 said:
DonFerrari said:

The reason N64 or GC even though as failures will be well remembered and X1 won't is the games.

Remove your prefferences from the equation and look at the top 10 best reviewed exclusives of N64 and X1 and you'll see.

I was going to say this, but I felt it would be a waste of time. There's a world of difference between gems like Mario 64, Ocarina of Time, Mario Kart 64, and Goldeneye vs Halo, Halo, Halo, Gears, Gears, Gears, and Forza, Forza Forza Forza Forza Forza. Oh, and I guess Ori and Cuphead. 

It isn't a waste of time. He perfectly recognizes what the market prefers and that it is different than him. For me even if PS1 had only Gran Turismo, Final Fantasy and Soul Reaver and nothing else I would still preffer it to N64 just because those are the games I most loved that gen.

So if someone loves racing games he have two very competent franchises in FM and FH (I do prefer GT over and over, but that is another thing), if he loves shooter then no doubt Halo and Gears are better than any exclusive FPS on PS (sure again I don't like FPS and not even a fan of shooters in general, so for me I would prefer UC a lot more than TLOU for example) and no matter what we say there is a big public that would play consoles only for one or two genres. Hell there is a big chunky of the market that only buy CoD and/or Fifa and do that every year doesn't matter if we think that is the same game copy and paste (which also isn't really true).



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

bad internet, double post;



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

sales2099 said:
goopy20 said:

Okay, maybe it really is just a freak coincidence that all the games MS has announced seemed to be a tailor fit for your taste in games, a 80 Metacritic game like Hellblade happens to be your favorite new ip - and only game you wanted to play so bad when it was a ps4 exclusive - even though you have no interest in any of Sony's 95+ Metacritic flagship exclusives because they're all just 3rd person story driven single player adventure games...

I honestly wouldn't know if MS's services are better than Sony's. I tried GP and it was great to play Gears 4/5 for $1. PS Now, I honestly don't give 2 shits about. Stuff like services are just a bonus to me and definitely not something a console platform should hang their hat on. In the end people will buy console X over Y because it has the games they care about. Sony caters to a wide audience with their exclusives and isn't afraid to take risks. Do I buy them all? Hell no, there are plenty of quality Sony exclusives I don't care about either. However, Sony has proven time and time again that they deliver with plenty of games and fresh ip's I do care about. MS, however, has pretty much done the opposite.

Like I said, I'm totally open minded and I do actually hope MS will prove me wrong in July. It's just that I got this gut feeling I'll be able to predict exactly what they'll be showing, and it's not going to be enough.

Well the second and last paragraph seem subjective enough to leave alone. Now I thought I explained my tastes and why I have them, how Xbox caters to it. Yet you remain unconvinced by Hellblade. Fair enough. 

I like Viking culture and time periods. Not fantastical like GOW but the actual Viking era. Really excited for Assassins Creed this year! Same goes for TV shows like Vikings and The Last Kingdom on Netflix. Something about being in such a primitive period and the drama that occurs draws me to it. This looked like a unique take on it while maintaining historical accuracy. Yet they balance that with the concept that the main character has paranoid schizophrenia with deep psychosis/hallucinations. The concept that people wouldn’t know how to react to such a thing in that period intrigues me and struck me as very original.  

It was billed as a shorter game which suited me fine. Again I’m not really into long 3rd person adventure games so this struck me as more intimate. The narrative possibilities of having multiple voices inside your head. The combat looked tense from what I’ve seen but the game wouldn’t over rely on it either. I liked that it was more about the journey and characters then the combat or puzzles. The idea that your save would be terminated if you died too much made me want to try my hardest with every encounter. I dont get that feeling much anymore with quick saves being a norm. Graphically I was also blown away. 

And then it came to Xbox and Ms bought the studio :)

There's no arguing taste and I'm not saying you shouldn't be excited about Hellblade 2. It just strikes me odd how you're so in love with it, even calling the game being short as a plus as it makes it "intimate", and then write off all of Sony's critically acclaimed blockbuster as the same old "3rd person action adventure single player games" that are too long for your taste... 

Like I said, not everybody is as loyal to a console brand as you and its silly to think Sony is getting so much hype just because of brand power. Sony's brand power didn't do them much good in the early ps3 days when the 360 was nailing it with games like Gears and Sony had nothing to get excited about. It was their exclusives, and MS completely dropping the ball later on, that got them through one of the worst console launches in video game history. 

I also don't think Sony's ps5 reveal was perfect. It was a well put together, professional presentation and it showed glimpses of some of their big ip's that looked next gen. Imo there weren't any new ip's to get super excited about and in theory its definitely possible for MS to beat Sony's event in July. However, if its just going to be like their last presentation and show Halo, Forza and a bunch of indie titles with an "optimized for Series X" logo, can you then honestly blame anyone for feeling let down by MS again? 



eva01beserk said:
sales2099 said:

I’ll just say it’s possible to have a comeback. Rainbow Six Seige was deemed a failure after launch and it turned around nicely via extensive updates and tweaking. It doesn’t happen often and it shouldn’t have to come to that, but it is a nice surprise now and again.

Thats definetly true. And Again, im not saying SoT cant have that, just that we dont know yet. 

If it spikes again when it gets a re package for Series X launch I better hear some credit where it’s due, or at least no countering when I bring it up ;)



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

goopy20 said:
sales2099 said:

Well the second and last paragraph seem subjective enough to leave alone. Now I thought I explained my tastes and why I have them, how Xbox caters to it. Yet you remain unconvinced by Hellblade. Fair enough. 

I like Viking culture and time periods. Not fantastical like GOW but the actual Viking era. Really excited for Assassins Creed this year! Same goes for TV shows like Vikings and The Last Kingdom on Netflix. Something about being in such a primitive period and the drama that occurs draws me to it. This looked like a unique take on it while maintaining historical accuracy. Yet they balance that with the concept that the main character has paranoid schizophrenia with deep psychosis/hallucinations. The concept that people wouldn’t know how to react to such a thing in that period intrigues me and struck me as very original.  

It was billed as a shorter game which suited me fine. Again I’m not really into long 3rd person adventure games so this struck me as more intimate. The narrative possibilities of having multiple voices inside your head. The combat looked tense from what I’ve seen but the game wouldn’t over rely on it either. I liked that it was more about the journey and characters then the combat or puzzles. The idea that your save would be terminated if you died too much made me want to try my hardest with every encounter. I dont get that feeling much anymore with quick saves being a norm. Graphically I was also blown away. 

And then it came to Xbox and Ms bought the studio :)

There's no arguing taste and I'm not saying you shouldn't be excited about Hellblade 2. It just strikes me odd how you're so in love with it, even calling the game being short as a plus as it makes it "intimate", and then write off all of Sony's critically acclaimed blockbuster as the same old "3rd person action adventure single player games" that are too long for your taste... 

Like I said, not everybody is as loyal to a console brand as you and its silly to think Sony is getting so much hype just because of brand power. Sony's brand power didn't do them much good in the early ps3 days when the 360 was nailing it with games like Gears and Sony had nothing to get excited about. It was their exclusives, and MS completely dropping the ball later on, that got them through one of the worst console launches in video game history. 

I also don't think Sony's ps5 reveal was perfect. It was a well put together, professional presentation and it showed glimpses of some of their big ip's that looked next gen. Imo there weren't any new ip's to get super excited about and in theory its definitely possible for MS to beat Sony's event in July. However, if its just going to be like their last presentation and show Halo, Forza and a bunch of indie titles with an "optimized for Series X" logo, can you then honestly blame anyone for feeling let down by MS again? 

It’s really simple. Sure I’m loyal but I don’t have any illusions about other fans. They likely have their own story. They are drawn to other factors. I believe that covering the different genres is what brings in little niche crowds to the brand. I don’t like games like Ori but I know many people love that game. Hellblade is just one perfect example where the theme and narrative made the game appeal to me despite being in third person. 

Personally I’d argue Sony’s brand power from PS2 is what saved it until it’s games kicked in (MGS4 in 2008 I believe is regarded as its turning point). Without the previous brand power it would have ended up like the Sega Saturn. Agree to disagree. 

“going to be like their last presentation and show Halo, Forza and a bunch of indie titles”. I wouldn’t blame anybody for being let down. So would I. But we know that isn’t going to happen. Playground, Obsidian, Initiative, and Ninja Theory have been too quiet for too long. The beauty about Ms going after Sony is that they can gauge what people thought and what Sony showed, and try to top that. Usually they go before Sony at E3, FINALLY they played it smart by waiting a bit for the real show. 



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