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To me it doesn't seem that The Legend of Heroes: Kuro no Kiseki will be able to debut higher than 50K on the PS4... another decline for Falcom and considering this franchise is extremely front loaded it won't be a small one I can see it being 25% or more. 

A far cry from the numbers they were doing during the PSP, PSV & PS3 days where the franchise regularly achieved over 200K lifetime sales in Japan. We can trace this pretty much the moment Sony dropped PSV and had devs transition all their efforts to the PS4. With the software performance - PS5 is unlikely to be able to support even a 50K Falcom game. 

2011:

[PSP] The Legend of Heroes: Ao no Kiseki - 151.412 / 212.108

2013:

[PSV] The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel - 93.674 / 126.371

[PS3] The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel - 71.868 / 100.679

TOTAL: 165.542 / 227.050

2014:

[PSV] The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel II - 98.161 / 122.743

[PS3] The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel II - 71.069 / 87.223

TOTAL: 169.230 / 209.966

2017:

[PS4] The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel III - 104.401 / 124.721

2018: 

[PS4] The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel IV - 97.158 / 115.842

2020:

[PS4] The Legend of Heroes: Hajimari no Kiseki - 83.680 / 104.067

Last edited by noshten - on 22 September 2021

noshten said:

To be it doesn't seem that The Legend of Heroes: Kuro no Kiseki will be able to debut higher than 50K on the PS4... another decline for Falcom and considering this franchise is extremely front loaded it won't be a small one I can see it being 25% or more. 

A far cry from the numbers they were doing during the PSP, PSV & PS3 days where the franchise regularly achieved over 200K lifetime sales in Japan. We can trace this pretty much the moment Sony dropped PSV and had devs transition all their efforts to the PS4. With the software performance - PS5 is unlikely to be able to support even a 50K Falcom game. 

2011:

[PSP] The Legend of Heroes: Ao no Kiseki - 151.412 / 212.108

2013:

[PSV] The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel - 93.674 / 126.371

[PS3] The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel - 71.868 / 100.679

TOTAL: 165.542 / 227.050

2014:

[PSV] The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel II - 98.161 / 122.743

[PS3] The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel II - 71.069 / 87.223

TOTAL: 169.230 / 209.966

2017:

[PS4] The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel III - 104.401 / 124.721

2018: 

[PS4] The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel IV - 97.158 / 115.842

2020:

[PS4] The Legend of Heroes: Hajimari no Kiseki - 83.680 / 104.067

it's okay, the magical digital performance rescue all.

Great research work, man.

Last edited by Agente42 - on 22 September 2021

noshten said:

To be it doesn't seem that The Legend of Heroes: Kuro no Kiseki will be able to debut higher than 50K on the PS4... another decline for Falcom and considering this franchise is extremely front loaded it won't be a small one I can see it being 25% or more. 

A far cry from the numbers they were doing during the PSP, PSV & PS3 days where the franchise regularly achieved over 200K lifetime sales in Japan. We can trace this pretty much the moment Sony dropped PSV and had devs transition all their efforts to the PS4. With the software performance - PS5 is unlikely to be able to support even a 50K Falcom game. 

2011:

[PSP] The Legend of Heroes: Ao no Kiseki - 151.412 / 212.108

2013:

[PSV] The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel - 93.674 / 126.371

[PS3] The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel - 71.868 / 100.679

TOTAL: 165.542 / 227.050

2014:

[PSV] The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel II - 98.161 / 122.743

[PS3] The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel II - 71.069 / 87.223

TOTAL: 169.230 / 209.966

2017:

[PS4] The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel III - 104.401 / 124.721

2018: 

[PS4] The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel IV - 97.158 / 115.842

2020:

[PS4] The Legend of Heroes: Hajimari no Kiseki - 83.680 / 104.067

It's sad to witness these things.



hows digital effecting that?



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theDX said:
kirby007 said:

hows digital effecting that?

Barely. These are yearly releases. The drops we are seeing from entry to entry are probably bigger than the growth of digital.

The real decline is expected to happen when Falcom pivots to PS5.

the software sales in East Asia for Ps5 seem abysmal. Uk and Spain have had the best performance so far. 

the problem with sony numbers is when lumping together ps4 and ps5 the analytics go for only conjecture. 



How many points did Hajimari no Kiseki have for pre-orders and how many points for the first week? Should be pretty easy to tell where Kuro will fall when comparing those numbers.



Hoping Lost Judgment can have a solid debut.



Good to see Fatal Frame, will likely sell more than on the Wii U. Curious to see wether the PS4 version will show up here.



Kakadu18 said:

Good to see Fatal Frame, will likely sell more than on the Wii U. Curious to see wether the PS4 version will show up here.

I really hope Fatal Frame does well, the future of the series could depend on it as it hasn't been selling well for a long time.

Last edited by curl-6 - on 22 September 2021