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JRPGfan on 05 November 2020

New GA update:

1.4k Trump~
4.8k Biden

Lead: 14.765 (it was 18.144)

The gap is closeing.



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sales2099 on 05 November 2020

Mail in ballots is a disaster. Too much room for problems. Just vote in person. The extended voting period was the right call, not everybody can vote in one day.



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JRPGfan on 05 November 2020
sales2099 said:
Mail in ballots is a disaster. Too much room for problems. Just vote in person. The extended voting period was the right call, not everybody can vote in one day.

The problem is republicans made it so (with rules) that you cannot start counting mail in ballots early (some places).
In some states it has to start, after they are finished counting all the other votes (ones that vote in person).
So it drags things out needlessly.

Then afterwards, the republicans complain that it takes too long, and elections should be decided the day of the vote.

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vivster on 05 November 2020
haxxiy said:
vivster said:
This is supposed to be the biggest turnout in modern history. Yet they don't even break 2/3s of the eligeable population. That's pathetic. I hope voting reform is on the high priority list for next cycle. Not sure why it hasn't been. If democrats could get turnout to 75% they won't ever lose an election again.

A lot of voters are in either safe D or safe R states, and we know what that means with the electoral college. Worse, even, in safe districts due to all gerrymandering. No point on turning out in these circumstances.

Honestly, one of the worst voting "democratic" systems in the world, by far.

Those are already 2 of the things you can do to improve voting.

Kill the electoral college.

Restrict and reverse gerrymandering.

Make voting day a holiday or at least a Sunday.

Register every citizen automatically.

Increase number of polling places.

All of those things combined would be an automatic 10% more voter turnout. And then you just have to fix that horrible 2 party system and the US is on a good path to become a democracy.



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JRPGfan on 05 November 2020
vivster said:
haxxiy said:

A lot of voters are in either safe D or safe R states, and we know what that means with the electoral college. Worse, even, in safe districts due to all gerrymandering. No point on turning out in these circumstances.

Honestly, one of the worst voting "democratic" systems in the world, by far.

Those are already 2 of the things you can do to improve voting.

Kill the electoral college.

Restrict and reverse gerrymandering.

Make voting day a holiday or at least a Sunday.

Register every citizen automatically.

Increase number of polling places.

All of those things combined would be an automatic 10% more voter turnout. And then you just have to fix that horrible 2 party system and the US is on a good path to become a democracy.

Gave this a like, 100% agree.

Seriously the fact that you even have to register to vote, as a citizen is nuts.

America loves to shout from the top of the mountains, about being "home of the free" and the last true democracy in the world and such.
Meanwhile.... most of the world looks on at the elections and election systems in the USA, and thinks "this is corrupt, silly and not very fair or democratic".
Your system could do with a make-over, theres tons of room for improvements.

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JRPGfan on 05 November 2020

Pennsylvania gap down slightly to 121,859 (from 124,875) - Decision Desk

Biden +4,178 (77,4%) and Trump +1,163 (+21,6%)

Pennsylvania down to 118,584 (from 121,859) - Decision Desk

Biden +3,620 (90,7%) and Trump +345 (8,7%)
 



sales2099 on 05 November 2020
JRPGfan said:
sales2099 said:
Mail in ballots is a disaster. Too much room for problems. Just vote in person. The extended voting period was the right call, not everybody can vote in one day.

The problem is republicans made it so (with rules) that you cannot start counting mail in ballots early (some places).
In some states it has to start, after they are finished counting all the other votes (ones that vote in person).
So it drags things out needlessly.

Then afterwards, the republicans complain that it takes too long, and elections should be decided the day of the vote.

I’m talking more about the faulty signatures and potential for fraud. So many cases where people couldn’t follow the most basic criteria to submit a successful mail in ballot that were subsequently disqualified. Voting in person has what I believe the necessity of providing ID on the spot. 



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forest-spirit on 05 November 2020

Looks like Nevada has started counting again. I'm pretty sure Biden was leading with ~8k earlier and the gap is now ~11.5k.



vivster on 05 November 2020

Nevada and Arizona look worrying. At this rate Biden desperately needs Pennsylvania.



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JRPGfan on 05 November 2020
vivster said:
Nevada and Arizona look worrying. At this rate Biden desperately needs Pennsylvania.

Nevada where hes only up by like 12k.... yeah, even though last votes comeing in appear to favor democrats.
Arizona has like a 70k lead to Biden, doubt thats not staying blue.