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Srassy said:
vivster said:

If Republicans and their followers had the mental capacity to be persuaded I wouldn't hate them so much.

Nazis are fascist racists. The President is a fascist racist who supports white supremacists. So what do you think I should call his followers?

Is he a racist fascist?  He's denounced white supremacy to the point that the KKK is a terrorist group now.

I am wondering though if you're saying that you hate his supporters so much so I've got to ask.  Can you be persuaded at all?  Did it surprise you when it turned out that Trump lost voters compared to last time with white men but is up with African Americans, Latinos and Asian Americans?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-exitpoll-idUSKBN27J2T9

Yes it has surprised me, but it probably shouldn't considering the vast amount of people willing to vote for him. The existence of minority Trump supporters does not change the fact he's racist. It only confirms that minority groups also have illiterates. I mean you don't even have to go to minorities. Many of the things Trump did are objectively hurtful to his most core base. But feelings trump facts, otherwise he wouldn't be President right now.

There are too many things that go against my core beliefs to ever consider voting for the Republican party. I'm from Germany and here they would be considered on the far right extremist side, while I consider myself centrist leaning left on some and right on other issues. It's hard to be leftist in Germany considering how socialized our country already is. However my sentiments would be considered plain leftist in the US. Certainly further left than Biden, just stopping shy of Sanders, who would be considered a moderate leftist here.

If I lived in the US there would be zero benefits for me voting for the Republicans. I'm not a millionaire. I would suffer from the poor social safety, health system and non existent employee rights and benefits. Then I would look at both parties and see how the Democrats want to make most of those things better while I see Republicans boasting to make all of those things even worse.

Voting in the US is the easiest thing in the world because the parties are more or less exact opposites. Which is why I find it pretty insulting when people try to equate them. Saying both are bad isn't useful when one of them is clearly more evil than the other.



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I can't believe it's close. Biden isn't great, not even good, but why do so many people want 4 more years of Trump. I honestly don't get it. And sill no one voting for a 3rd candidate? This year was the time to break out with a new party. If a 3rd party can't even make a dent this election, the usa will never become a democracy.



So basically there is nothing at all stopping Trump from doing whatever the hell he wants now (assuming he's won). Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.



SvennoJ said:
I can't believe it's close. Biden isn't great, not even good, but why do so many people want 4 more years of Trump. I honestly don't get it. And sill no one voting for a 3rd candidate? This year was the time to break out with a new party. If a 3rd party can't even make a dent this election, the usa will never become a democracy.

A 3rd party won't do shit unless they change how election works. Until then 3rd parties will hurt more than they will help.



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So much for the "Biden has a 9 points/16 points of advantage in the polls!Trump dosen't stand a chance!"

This still can go either way, but let this be a lesson again that polls aren't trustworthy.



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Today on "Things nobody who is pro democracy would say"

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election-2020/trump-won-election-ballots-count-supreme-court-biden-b1581628.html

If he wants to delegitimize the election I say we do just that. Let's cancel the election because there is too much fraud going on. Otherwise Trump would be the winner of a fraudulent election and nobody wants that.



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Nautilus said:
So much for the "Biden has a 9 points/16 points of advantage in the polls!Trump dosen't stand a chance!"

This still can go either way, but let this be a lesson again that polls aren't trustworthy.

The difference is Republicans can't suppress voters in polls. It's not the polls that are fucked, it's the election.



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Nautilus said:
So much for the "Biden has a 9 points/16 points of advantage in the polls!Trump dosen't stand a chance!"

This still can go either way, but let this be a lesson again that polls aren't trustworthy.

538 gave Trump a 10% chance of winning. 11% if you factor in the ability of the Supreme Court to break ties. That is a very real possibility of Trump winning. I will say that WI and MI polling needs to be fixed. Two elections in a row where there are big polling errors in favor of Trump.



SvennoJ said:
I can't believe it's close. Biden isn't great, not even good, but why do so many people want 4 more years of Trump. I honestly don't get it. And sill no one voting for a 3rd candidate? This year was the time to break out with a new party. If a 3rd party can't even make a dent this election, the usa will never become a democracy.

You had more than enough time to get it. I got it, because i actually listened to the people who want 4 more years of Trump.

Do i get why Biden has so many votes after his blatant racist remarks, e.g. Latino vs. Black community. The ignorance behind this statement was baffling and i actually felt offended.



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vivster said:

Today on "Things nobody who is pro democracy would say"

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election-2020/trump-won-election-ballots-count-supreme-court-biden-b1581628.html

If he wants to delegitimize the election I say we do just that. Let's cancel the election because there is too much fraud going on. Otherwise Trump would be the winner of a fraudulent election and nobody wants that.

Yep. He's a wannabe dictator. If we count all the votes and he wins, that's fine. If we stop counting all the votes due to a Supreme Court ruling, or something, then that is called a coup.