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Vaccinations seem to have slowed alot here in Denmark.
(at around the 76% mark, guess its the last few anti vaxxers, or people not of age to get vaccinated yet)

Luckily our R0 value is under 1.
So each day (on avg currently) we're seeing less and less new infected.

But its crazy to see so many other nations around us, numbers are climbing.
USA numbers seem crazy to me, esp on the "deaths pr day", cant believe its like 1900 pr day, and its not getting any media attention.



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Well it happened, both kids are sick. The oldest started with a head ache, then ear ache and now worsening cough. Oddly his temperature is so low the thermometer keeps giving ERR or barely reads 35c. The youngest woke up with a fever today.

So now they're scheduled for a Covid test later today. First experience with the testing system. There were only 4 slots available to book in the next town over (no local testing). I quickly snatched up two at the same time slot so we might get results by Monday. If the 4th wave is such a concern, why only 4 slots available for the day at 8 AM in the morning and none locally.

Hopefully it's not Covid or they'll be home for at least 10 days plus a lot of trouble incoming. It's likely just some other bug as cases are low in our area, but better to know for sure.



Got advised by telehealth to go to a health care center, 3 hour wait, but he got a swab there so cancelled the scheduled ones. The doctor says they're most likely fine, can go back to school if no further symptons and test comes back negative. We got to sit in a separate waiting room for contagious diseases. Which was fine, lot of spacing and only one other parent with kid there, while the main waiting room got pretty crowded.

It's amazing how fast kids feel better if they get to stay home from school! The oldest stopped coughing, youngest's fever went down. The fastest working medicine is a day off from school....

Only the oldest got the test, still pretty nasty. As the nurse described it, ever got pool water up your nose? It's like that, but worse.

Last edited by SvennoJ - on 17 September 2021

Weekly update. Globally cases and deaths are trending down.

In total 3.77 million new cases were reported last week (down from 4.02 million) to a total of 228,377,752
Also another 62,522 more deaths were reported last week (slightly down from 63,565) to a total of 4,692,311

New cases have gone slightly down in Europe, slightly up in the US and deaths are still rising in Europe and USA.

The continents

Asia reported 1.36 million new cases (down from 1.53 million) and 21,388 more deaths (down from 24,451)
North America reported 1.28 million new cases (1.28 million last week) and 19,866 more deaths (slightly up from 18,913)
Europe reported 811K new cases (slightly down from 866K) and 11,643 more deaths (slightly up from 10,913)
South America reported 183K new cases (slightly up from 181K) and 6,080 more deaths (slightly up from 5,398)
Africa reported 123K new cases (down from 142K) and 3,383 more deaths (down from 3,745)
Oceania reported 16.2K new cases (up from 13.6K) and 162 deaths (145 last week)

Corners of the world

USA reported 1.06 million new cases (slightly up from 1.04 million) and 13,697 more deaths (up from 12,082)
India reported 215K new cases (down from 256K) and 2,216 more deaths (slightly up from 2,094)
Iran reported 137K new cases (down from 176K) and 3,056 more deaths (down from 3,831)
Brazil reported 128K new cases (slightly up from 119K) and 3,821 more deaths (up from 3,170)
Japan reported 49.2K new cases (down from 89.2K) and 427 deaths (419 last week)
Canada reported 31.1K new cases (up from 26.9K) and 200 deaths (164 last week)
South Africa reported 28.1K new cases (down from 43.3K) and 1,344 more deaths (1,447 last week)
South Korea reported 12.6K new cases (slightly up from 12.3K) and 41 deaths (40 last week)
Australia reported 12.3K new cases (up from 11.7K) and 65 deaths (44 last week)

Europe in detail

Cases in the Ukraine are going up fast, Denmark and Norway are recovering fast. Most seem to be happy with where they are.

No test results yet. Kid feels better already anyway. Most likely just a cold + school stress + lack of sleep getting back in the rhythm + part drama. While cases are rising in the country (Alberta's healthcare system is buckling under pressure), locally it's still very low.

Edit: Test result came back negative as expected.

Last edited by SvennoJ - on 18 September 2021

SvennoJ said:

Well it happened, both kids are sick. The oldest started with a head ache, then ear ache and now worsening cough. Oddly his temperature is so low the thermometer keeps giving ERR or barely reads 35c. The youngest woke up with a fever today.

So now they're scheduled for a Covid test later today. First experience with the testing system. There were only 4 slots available to book in the next town over (no local testing). I quickly snatched up two at the same time slot so we might get results by Monday. If the 4th wave is such a concern, why only 4 slots available for the day at 8 AM in the morning and none locally.

Hopefully it's not Covid or they'll be home for at least 10 days plus a lot of trouble incoming. It's likely just some other bug as cases are low in our area, but better to know for sure.



Got advised by telehealth to go to a health care center, 3 hour wait, but he got a swab there so cancelled the scheduled ones. The doctor says they're most likely fine, can go back to school if no further symptons and test comes back negative. We got to sit in a separate waiting room for contagious diseases. Which was fine, lot of spacing and only one other parent with kid there, while the main waiting room got pretty crowded.

It's amazing how fast kids feel better if they get to stay home from school! The oldest stopped coughing, youngest's fever went down. The fastest working medicine is a day off from school....

Only the oldest got the test, still pretty nasty. As the nurse described it, ever got pool water up your nose? It's like that, but worse.

How did it end in the end? Hope you’re all ok. 



I love how starts the video but taking 234243423443 minutes to make it clear that he’s not an anti-vaxer and this isn’t material for anti-vaxers to drool over. It’s becoming impossible to have a conversation, criticize  big pharmacology, scrutinise studies or ask for evidence without having to explain ourselves. It’s becoming ridiculous and for what? It’s not my job to paternalistically manage the anti-vaxers inability to understand the point of x conversation. Nor do I believe that criticising the vaccines policies is going to dissuade an anti-vaxer from taking up the vaccine. 

Anyway, a really good video and worth your time. 



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LurkerJ said:

How did it end in the end? Hope you’re all ok. 

Test results came back about 30 hours after the swab, negative as expected.

We suspect it's mostly stress and drama. Typical teenager behavior. He said he prefers to sit in the waiting room all day and get a swab up his nose than going to school... It's not that bad really. (Teacher says he's doing fine at school) After about 17 months staying home it's no wonder it's hard to get back in the rhythm so we'll cut him some slack for this one. (Little one is fine too)

Locally things are very good, 12 new cases detected over the past 24 hours, 4 people hospitalized. No problems here. Other parts of the country are not so lucky and numbers are still creeping up province wide. Yet not much to worry about here for now. Heck maybe they'll even have a normal fall break and straight back to school after. /knock on wood.



I just read a article in the news paper, that states "Minus on public finances 97% less, that feared".

Basically goverment expected last year (one just gone) to end up with a deficit of 160 billion KR, on public finances.
In reality after this year, and seeing the total costs, its abit under 4,3 billion.
Corona pandemic wasn't nearly as expensive on public finances as they (goverment) were expecting, when it hit denmark last year.

Apparently one of the smart choices that aided our economy greatly, was the goverment choose to pay out, frozen "vaccation pay" funds to people.
Who then, spent that money domestically. Yes, you get vaccation pay in denmark, when you work.

This was pointed out by Las Olsen, a cheif economic in Danske bank (the danish bank).
"Its quite remarkable, that we have come out through this near record worst year, registered in GDP developement, in denmark, with such a small deficit"

"todays numbers, underscore, that we danes don't have a problem with our public finances, and that there isn't some gigantic bill laying around from results of the corona virus"

This comes ontop of our National bank, forecasting, that our growth is going to be 3,8% this year (when earlier on, it was expecting it to only be 3,3%).


Apparently we're one of the countries that did the best, in terms of copeing with the costs of the pandemic in europe.
Our GDP didnt drop that much (compaired to USA, UK, rest of europe), joblosses ect.

Consumer confidence is apparently very high too.

Finally some (semi) good news :) relateing to covid.



JRPGfan said:

I just read a article in the news paper, that states "Minus on public finances 97% less, that feared".

Basically goverment expected last year (one just gone) to end up with a deficit of 160 billion KR, on public finances.
In reality after this year, and seeing the total costs, its abit under 4,3 billion.
Corona pandemic wasn't nearly as expensive on public finances as they (goverment) were expecting, when it hit denmark last year.

Apparently one of the smart choices that aided our economy greatly, was the goverment choose to pay out, frozen "vaccation pay" funds to people.
Who then, spent that money domestically. Yes, you get vaccation pay in denmark, when you work.

This was pointed out by Las Olsen, a cheif economic in Danske bank (the danish bank).
"Its quite remarkable, that we have come out through this near record worst year, registered in GDP developement, in denmark, with such a small deficit"

"todays numbers, underscore, that we danes don't have a problem with our public finances, and that there isn't some gigantic bill laying around from results of the corona virus"

This comes ontop of our National bank, forecasting, that our growth is going to be 3,8% this year (when earlier on, it was expecting it to only be 3,3%).

Apparently we're one of the countries that did the best, in terms of copeing with the costs of the pandemic in europe.
Our GDP didnt drop that much (compaired to USA, UK, rest of europe), joblosses ect.

Consumer confidence is apparently very high too.

Finally some (semi) good news :) relateing to covid.

Personally, I'd give either Denmark the award of the best handling of the Covid pandemic. Somewhat lucky with a relatively late introduction but a very good balance of handling Covid but not overshooting with ineffective panic measures, that is, except for the whole mink fiasco (though no one could have predicted at the time that Cluster 5 would look like a variant for babies compared to just about any of the others).



 

 

 

 

 

Japan now surpassing European countries in terms of vaccination percentage, and this is without anyone below 18 getting vaccinated. I think the rate will slow significantly soon, but they should open up the vaccines for under 18 soon.



Farsala said:

Japan now surpassing European countries in terms of vaccination percentage, and this is without anyone below 18 getting vaccinated. I think the rate will slow significantly soon, but they should open up the vaccines for under 18 soon.

Japan is at 56% fully vaccinated (both shots) (68% with atleast 1 shot).

Even someone like France (which isnt doing great, compaired to most european countries) is at ~64% fully, and ~74% with atleast 1 shot.

Portugal is at 88%, spain ~81%,.... Denmark ~76%.


Source: https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations