Well, they are fucking themselves (and the rest of us) in the long run. People won't put up with this for too long, especially when it gets bad and yeah, it's not nearly as bad as it is going to get. This is fucking Christmas compared to what it's going to be in the next few months. They should be holding their load for when the back end of the storm hits.

It's not a theory anymore when it's proven beyond doubt.

Their symptoms seem on the mild side so we expect they will be Ok but she will have to be quarantined for 14 days when she eventually goes back.

I don't know how longer her Visa is good for.  I'll check tonight.  I have to imagine that grace periods will be applied given the circumstances.

My understanding is that you can still drive to Canada (and Canada to the US) without passport/visa.  But if you fly or go by train, you need them.

I just have a problem with cutting funding to an organization that saves millions of lives every year in the middle of the worst pandemic in 100 years all because of someone's ego.

You want to cut funding?  Fine, BUT FUCKING WAIT FOR THE PANDEMIC TO BE OVER.

Further, he may not even have the power to do it.  He might be able to re-appropriate the remaining WHO fiscal year funds to state and local medical allotments but a full on cancellation of WHO funding is not in his power.  He can ask Congress to do it but even Republicans are giving Trump hell for this....so that's not happening.  This is nothing more than a mix of retaliation for ego damage and political points with his re-election in the balance.   And because this directly impacts the lives of millions around the world to appease his ego and politics, I have words to say about it that are best not repeated on this forum.

I'll be blunt. People. Will. Die. Period. And Trump doesn't care.  To him it's just a bunch of "shithole" countries that mooch on us.

Did he come out and say it?

Pretty silly to assume the CDC will get everything right going forward though... It is always smarter to work with multiple agencies rather than drop all your eggs in one basket.

Plus WHO provides a ton of logistical support and pathways of communication and information dissemination, it's about getting all of the worlds participating countries to work together to fight against an issue... If the Coronavirus is any example, some countries have done really well and those countries provide their successful methods to the WHO, who then go forth and work with less successful countries like the United States.

Boom. Virus origin = Lab. Chinas silence and suppression explained. The world makes sense. War cometh.

Boom. Virus origin = Lab. Chinas silence and suppression explained. The world makes sense. War cometh.

Not to get back into this shit but there is no other option, you let the virus through and we get all this shit up front and with no time to prepare. Thank God those who said the virus won't be the most damaging aspect get to say I told you so, it means we are still here and we still have infrastructure. It's how we navigate the tightrope that we have no other choice but to walk and this is not navigating it well at all, we're wobbling way too soon while we've got months to years left to walk. I don't think we'll make it into next spring without severe human loss and suffering right up to the doorsteps of the 1%, this is the one that'll shave us down by a few billion over the next few years but thank God people still get to say I told you so cause right now we'd be entering into hell as the bodies pile up, essential work force gets clipped all at once, supply lines get cut with preparation and the masses go nuts all once.

Thank God, we just got some panic buying, lines for food banks and a bit of rioting in the third world. Believe it or not, the only reason we are still standing and have the mess in front of us still is because we locked down, that initial wash through would have been the end of the world had everyone stayed ignorant even if the models were 800% higher than reality. I can't understand the STILL people can't see that, after the virus got out of control globally, there is and was only one reality of this situation and we can either extend it and draw it out slowly or brace and let it have happened all at once and let society just fall apart within a few weeks of confusion. Watch the hand to mouth countries over the next month and that is what the west would have been but because we are so much more dependent we'd have been so much worse, like the opening of a zombie film, without the zombies.