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So windows central said 12 tf's and that means it's confirmed?



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Leynos said:
HollyGamer said:

I am sure Xbox series S that will be coming next year will have stronger then that. And you are using Laptop ? that GPU on Laptop is weak compared to desktop. Try to build desktop for gaming. 

Sure. Just give me a few thousand bucks first tho. Since it seems to be so casual for you while some of us live in the real world.

Laptop with GTX 1060 is more expensive than GTX 1060 desktop LOL.  Even the performance is  less than 1050 desktop. Not counting for thermal problem, and easy to break. Unless if you are really busy person. I have gaming Laptop a  good one with GTX 9700 GTX (probably equal to 2070 Mobile if we compare price to tech in 2009) It's easy to break, and has thermal problem. Since then i never buy gaming Laptop and instead i build a desktop PC.  



Blood_Tears said:
So windows central said 12 tf's and that means it's confirmed?

I still not convinced yet, with the rest of insider pointing to that number you can at least take a middle ground, i would said 2080 to 2080 Super performance level is save to said. Teraflop relative. If you want more realistic 2070 super is more realistic comparison.



ArchangelMadzz said:
I think I'll be fine with my PC for the coming gen. (still gonna buy a PS5 anyway though)

But I'd be very surprised if PS5 or Xbox Series something is more powerful.

The CPU and SSD will be the game changer outside GPU, we never had a powerful CPU circa PS3/Xbox 360. And with the addition to SSD it will be even better. I myself have SSD, and i feel the luxuries owning SSD . Probably with console pushing as standard we will see next gen games utilizing SSD better.   



HollyGamer said:
Leynos said:

Sure. Just give me a few thousand bucks first tho. Since it seems to be so casual for you while some of us live in the real world.

Laptop with GTX 1060 is more expensive than GTX 1060 desktop LOL.  Even the performance is  less than 1050 desktop. Not counting for thermal problem, and easy to break. Unless if you are really busy person. I have gaming Laptop a  good one with GTX 9700 GTX (probably equal to 2070 Mobile if we compare price to tech in 2009) It's easy to break, and has thermal problem. Since then i never buy gaming Laptop and instead i build a desktop PC.  

blah blah blah. Maybe a desktop doesn't work for some people, Maybe space is a concern. Maybe being mobile with it fits me better. Good for you, I don't care. And oh and no it wasn't. All those desktops with a 1050 cost more than this thing when I was shopping around. I got a great deal on it.



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Leynos said:
HollyGamer said:

Laptop with GTX 1060 is more expensive than GTX 1060 desktop LOL.  Even the performance is  less than 1050 desktop. Not counting for thermal problem, and easy to break. Unless if you are really busy person. I have gaming Laptop a  good one with GTX 9700 GTX (probably equal to 2070 Mobile if we compare price to tech in 2009) It's easy to break, and has thermal problem. Since then i never buy gaming Laptop and instead i build a desktop PC.  

blah blah blah. Maybe a desktop doesn't work for some people, Maybe space is a concern. Maybe being mobile with it fits me better. Good for you, I don't care. And oh and no it wasn't. All those desktops with a 1050 cost more than this thing when I was shopping around. I got a great deal on it.

OK that's your choice, no need feel offended.

I just giving some suggestion, maybe in near future perhaps you will considering, building desktop is cheaper in long run. 



Conina said:
goopy20 said:

We will have to wait and see what the first wave of next gen games looks like and saying we will see developers supporting all of its features in 2024 or later is just speculation.

I wrote 2022 or later, not 2024 or later.


And yes, a 2080RTX will be more affordable after a while but that doesn't change the point that the OP is trying to make. Any multiplatform game you've played since 2014 has a minimum requirements of a 660GTX and next year that will change to a 2080RTX or whatever pc gpu equivalent is in these next gen consoles. These are simply facts

These are simply wrong facts.

I played lots of multiplatform games since 2014 with higher or lower minimum requirements than a GTX 660.

Next year there won't be a "one size fits all" minimum requirement for all multiplatform releases either.

People here make it sound like the minimum pc requirements are some kind of vague concept that's open to interpretation, but it's literally what's written on the back of a box when you buy a pc game. When Ryse came out as a launch game for the Xbox One, the minimum requirements for the pc version was a GTX 660 and it's been pretty much the same for 95% of the multiplatform games that came out ever since. Obviously, a 660 GTX is crap by today's standards but in 2014 it was a pretty decent mid range card that was only out for a year and loads of people who had a GTX 5** gpu or older had to upgrade. 

The same thing will happen next year, only the minimum requirements will be a RTX 2080 (if the rumors are true). It seems that MS and Sony are stepping up their game and are going with a higher tier gpu/ cpu this time around and probably a higher launch price compared to current gen. 



goopy20 said:

People here make it sound like the minimum pc requirements are some kind of vague concept that's open to interpretation, but it's literally what's written on the back of a box when you buy a pc game. When Ryse came out as a launch game for the Xbox One, the minimum requirements for the pc version was a GTX 660 and it's been pretty much the same for 95% of the multiplatform games that came out ever since. Obviously, a 660 GTX is crap by today's standards but in 2014 it was a pretty decent mid range card that was only out for a year and loads of people who had a GTX 5** gpu or older had to upgrade. 

The same thing will happen next year, only the minimum requirements will be a RTX 2080 (if the rumors are true). It seems that MS and Sony are stepping up their game and are going with a higher tier gpu/ cpu this time around and probably a higher launch price compared to current gen. 

 And also new GPU will be introduced in CES 2020 and Nvidia also going to have New GPU lineup, RTX 2080 will be mainstream replaced by RTX 3070 or if the rumored true, 7 nm+ will have better yield and we will have mainstream GPU (RTX 3060) equal to RTX 2080.



goopy20 said:

People here make it sound like the minimum pc requirements are some kind of vague concept that's open to interpretation, but it's literally what's written on the back of a box when you buy a pc game. When Ryse came out as a launch game for the Xbox One, the minimum requirements for the pc version was a GTX 660 and it's been pretty much the same for 95% of the multiplatform games that came out ever since.  

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/ryse-son-of-rome-lowers-recommended-pc-system-requ/1100-6422155/

Or look at Dirt Rally. It's no cross-gen game, it only was released for PC, PS4 & XBO in December 2015:

Or Watch_Dogs:

Or Fallout 4:

And let's not even mention very popular 8th gen games like Overwatch, Rocket League, Ori and thousands of other great games with less performance needs.

Additionally, minimum PC requirements are some kind of vague concept that's open to interpretation, since they don't give the information, which resolution and minimal/average framerate and other settings the publisher had in mind, when they printed that recommendation onto the box (in most cases).

There are whole Youtube channels dedicated to showing games running waaaay under their "minimum" requirements: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQkd05iAYed2-LOmhjzDG6g

Last edited by Conina - on 14 December 2019

HollyGamer said:

So Xbox Series X has been announce and it has 12 teraflop RDNA performance that's equal to RTX 2080 Super more or less,

Stop right here. Nothing of this kind has been said. What was said is 2*gpu performance of the X1X - which puts the system at 12TFlop GCN performance.

No consider this: An AMD RX5700XT at 9,75TFlop is already heating with around 225W. If you want 12TFlop, you are way past the 250W region. Not to forget that gpu wattage increases sharply after around 1.75GHz. Add a fast cpu (3.6GHz Ryzen2 adds quite a few Watts), dedicated raytracing cores (in question, though), and whatnot and you are way past 300W.

Now the new XBox design looks like a cooling tower, so maybe we do get a resistive heater for our flats/houses in the end...