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Pemalite said:
SquirrelWhisperer said:

for anyone who doesn't know, when you buy a digital game you don't technically "own" the game you just bought. you own a license that allows you to play it. you can't lend it to a friend or sell it, you essentially have nothing, when you could have bought physical and truly owned it. it has nothing to do with updates at all. when you buy digital you let the publisher play you for a chump, and some people don't like that.

That is a grey area... And depending on region the buy a license would probably not hold any weight in court, especially in regions with pro-consumer stances, because most stores advertise it as "Buy this game" and not "Buy a license for this game".

Wyrdness said:

Don't really get the point you're trying to make with storage here as it has nothing really to do with the topic.

I own OW on PC your patches argument still doesn't fly as that's over a long period of time and no people can buy what ever game they want as they manage their data all the time it still doesn't stop this action by Blizzard being a significant inconvenience this comment in itself is not a valid defence in any context here as people in that position would have already accounted for it being online only it's having to download the full base game that would be the issue.

Er. Has everything to do with it, it necessitates the need to uninstall/reinstall games if you have a sizable library.

We are just going to have to agree to disagree on that second half... Because again, Physical is great... There is just lots of reasons to make Overwatch a digital only game on Switch.

You're not making any sense with this because if someone is buying physical their library will be on carts :/



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Wyrdness said:
Pemalite said:

That is a grey area... And depending on region the buy a license would probably not hold any weight in court, especially in regions with pro-consumer stances, because most stores advertise it as "Buy this game" and not "Buy a license for this game".

Er. Has everything to do with it, it necessitates the need to uninstall/reinstall games if you have a sizable library.

We are just going to have to agree to disagree on that second half... Because again, Physical is great... There is just lots of reasons to make Overwatch a digital only game on Switch.

You're not making any sense with this because if someone is buying physical their library will be on carts :/

He's talking about Overwatch specifically. Not other games. As such if you at any point need to unistall it you'll have to afterwards download everything again. So if you have limited internet it makes no sense to buy an online-only game. It's silly not include a cart in the box, yes, but in this specific case it's not much different than having it digital-only even if there was a cart.



Safiir said:
Wyrdness said:

You're not making any sense with this because if someone is buying physical their library will be on carts :/

He's talking about Overwatch specifically. Not other games. As such if you at any point need to unistall it you'll have to afterwards download everything again. So if you have limited internet it makes no sense to buy an online-only game. It's silly not include a cart in the box, yes, but in this specific case it's not much different than having it digital-only even if there was a cart.

This argument still doesn't fly because if someone has 40GB data a month for example they've already factored in their usage of online play so saying it's an online only game is a null and void point because those buying the game would be like yeah and? Everything in future such as patches over months and any possible uninstall they would have accounted for on their own accord this is simply not a valid defence at all for not having a cart in any context otherwise just don't have a physical version that's not physical and just be fully digital so people know beforehand so they can account for it, Call of Juarez a single player game has notified players it would need to be fully downloaded on its announcement so Blizzard could have as well.



Wyrdness said:
Safiir said:

He's talking about Overwatch specifically. Not other games. As such if you at any point need to unistall it you'll have to afterwards download everything again. So if you have limited internet it makes no sense to buy an online-only game. It's silly not include a cart in the box, yes, but in this specific case it's not much different than having it digital-only even if there was a cart.

This argument still doesn't fly because if someone has 40GB data a month for example they've already factored in their usage of online play so saying it's an online only game is a null and void point because those buying the game would be like yeah and? Everything in future such as patches over months and any possible uninstall they would have accounted for on their own accord this is simply not a valid defence at all for not having a cart in any context otherwise just don't have a physical version that's not physical and just be fully digital so people know beforehand so they can account for it, Call of Juarez a single player game has notified players it would need to be fully downloaded on its announcement so Blizzard could have as well.

If they can calculate their usage for upcoming patches that we have zero idea about in terms of size or scope, the amount of data for regular gameplay and of course take into consideration the amount of data required for a complete reinstall...

Then they can account for the data needed for the initial install.



--::{PC Gaming Master Race}::--

You are talking 10 gigs + patches and an SD card is a thing. The crux of it though is having the cart and on that issue you both agree. If you buy a "physical" copy you should have the cart, otherwise (as evidenced by those pissed off) you mislead people and are putting out JUST A BOX which is environmentally irresponsible. EDIT it is also financially irresponsible but it's Blizzard's money to piss away as long as retailers are getting the cut they need to cover labor associated with handling an empty box.



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Pemalite said:

If they can calculate their usage for upcoming patches that we have zero idea about in terms of size or scope, the amount of data for regular gameplay and of course take into consideration the amount of data required for a complete reinstall...

Then they can account for the data needed for the initial install.

Their usage is over many months and in future if they have to uninstall they would have prepared for that they would not have prepared for downloading the full 10GB-12GB of the game after buying a physical copy this is not a valid defence because no indication of of it being download only was ever given at most they would have accounted for a possible day 1 patch.



Wyrdness said:
Pemalite said:

If they can calculate their usage for upcoming patches that we have zero idea about in terms of size or scope, the amount of data for regular gameplay and of course take into consideration the amount of data required for a complete reinstall...

Then they can account for the data needed for the initial install.

Their usage is over many months and in future if they have to uninstall they would have prepared for that they would not have prepared for downloading the full 10GB-12GB of the game after buying a physical copy this is not a valid defence because no indication of of it being download only was ever given at most they would have accounted for a possible day 1 patch.

Yeaaah no indication at all



Safiir said:
Wyrdness said:

Their usage is over many months and in future if they have to uninstall they would have prepared for that they would not have prepared for downloading the full 10GB-12GB of the game after buying a physical copy this is not a valid defence because no indication of of it being download only was ever given at most they would have accounted for a possible day 1 patch.

Yeaaah no indication at all

Which is at release not a prior notification.



Wyrdness said:
Safiir said:

Yeaaah no indication at all

Which is at release not a prior notification.

https://nintendosoup.com/overwatch-legendary-edition-switch-boxed-version-will-not-include-a-game-card/



Safiir said:
Wyrdness said:

Which is at release not a prior notification.

https://nintendosoup.com/overwatch-legendary-edition-switch-boxed-version-will-not-include-a-game-card/

My mistake then.