Forums - Sales Discussion - PS4 Beats Wii and PS2, Fastest Console To 100 Million

DonFerrari said:
zorg1000 said:

It's all hypothetical but if Sony had wanted a WW launch of PS2 than it's more likely they would have it in Fall 2000, not March.

Since anything we throw at the case that haven't happened is purely hypothetical then no one can say it isn't the right way to compare the launch aligned by first release date even if in this case it have PS2 Japan only and PS4 on more markets (still wasn't full globe). I even remember a famous thread of the smart 13 vs 49 or something like that comparing Xbox tiered launch versus Sony more spread, and that MS would demolish Sony on those markets and the extra months to other territories wouldn't impact much. And in a way the first couple months both consoles sold very near to one another, and even Xbox had shortages. So assuming that if PS2 was to be released WW at that time would mean much more sales can't be proven.

So since the initial date is all that matters than let's look at a different console for comparison.

July 1983-Aug 1985 (2 year, 1 month) NES shipped 4.33 million

Nov 1990-March 1993 (2 years, 4 months) SNES shipped 21.06 million

Would you say that's a relatively fair comparison?



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zorg1000 said:
DonFerrari said:

Since anything we throw at the case that haven't happened is purely hypothetical then no one can say it isn't the right way to compare the launch aligned by first release date even if in this case it have PS2 Japan only and PS4 on more markets (still wasn't full globe). I even remember a famous thread of the smart 13 vs 49 or something like that comparing Xbox tiered launch versus Sony more spread, and that MS would demolish Sony on those markets and the extra months to other territories wouldn't impact much. And in a way the first couple months both consoles sold very near to one another, and even Xbox had shortages. So assuming that if PS2 was to be released WW at that time would mean much more sales can't be proven.

So since the initial date is all that matters than let's look at a different console for comparison.

July 1983-Aug 1985 (2 year, 1 month) NES shipped 4.33 million

Nov 1990-March 1993 (2 years, 4 months) SNES shipped 21.06 million

Would you say that's a relatively fair comparison?

Yes, SNES was faster on the start but NES accelerated and had a total sale much higher.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

DonFerrari said:
zorg1000 said:

So since the initial date is all that matters than let's look at a different console for comparison.

July 1983-Aug 1985 (2 year, 1 month) NES shipped 4.33 million

Nov 1990-March 1993 (2 years, 4 months) SNES shipped 21.06 million

Would you say that's a relatively fair comparison?

Yes, SNES was faster on the start but NES accelerated and had a total sale much higher.

Are you aware that NES did not release anywhere but Japan for the first 2+ years?



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zorg1000 said:
DonFerrari said:

Yes, SNES was faster on the start but NES accelerated and had a total sale much higher.

Are you aware that NES did not release anywhere but Japan for the first 2+ years?

And the problem?

PS4 and PS3 sell much worse in Japan than PS1 and PS2 due to change of the market landscape there, we still don't put as unfair to compare they to the previous systems.

With so little systems involved in comparison if we decide to make caveats for every difference then we better not even compare anything. Because you won't find a equalizing comparison that will make everyone think it's fair.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

DonFerrari said:
zorg1000 said:

Are you aware that NES did not release anywhere but Japan for the first 2+ years?

And the problem?

Well that says all I need to hear.



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.