Mass mail-in voting is a different beast. We don't know if the system can handle it.

With regards to those claims I find it bogus that it just began popping up at such a convenient time. So I'll take that with a grain of salt.

Still, I stand by my opinion that shoving mass mail-in voting by masking "coronavirus" as the reason is just plain bullshit. Pretty much that reason has lost a lot of meaning as it is being used whenever it aligns with a particular agenda.

There's a clear selective enforcement going around the country. There a lot of small businesses that are unable to re-open because the local government is pinning them down and not giving them any options for operating. Instead of bickering about doing mass mail-in voting, they could just enable people to do it in a modified manner using best practices to avoid the spread of the disease. If people are protesting fine for days, weeks or even months, let alone are able to go to groceries to buy food, they can go to the ballots and vote. If someone is to do mail-in voting, there needs to be a compelling reason to do so.

Well, we already know that mail-in voting will be increasing this year. That isn't in question. As such, wouldn't you think that we would want to be funding the postal system to ensure that this happens smoothly? If there is doubt that the system can handle it, the logical thing to do is to ensure that it can, not make the system worse at handling it.

Further, there is no reason that mail in voting needs to be political. Evidence suggests that mail in voting doesn't provide either party with any advantage, so there is no reason to assume purely political aims for those pushing for expanded mail-in voting and it honestly just makes this counter push strange and suspicious.

Finally, in regards to protests, individuals are able to make decisions themselves about whether they wish to engage in protests based on individual factors such as their health, the conditions of the protest and the risk of spreading the disease to a high risk individual were they to contract it. We should not be conditioning the ability to vote on these decisions. Nobody should be pressured to not vote because they don't feel safe, which is why mail in voting is so important now. With how important of a right it is within any functioning democracy, we should not be attaching conditions and erecting barriers such as forcing people to risk their health in order to vote. That is counter productive to the health of our democracy.

If we can eliminate any chances for voting fraud, I would rather take that. Given what was happening these past few months, I don't want any more uncertainty into the equation. I've seen reports from before about allegations of voting fraud that involved mail-in votes. It's not just one party that can do it.

If they really willed it, they can sit down and talk on how to conduct voting in a safer manner. I don't care how long the voting process takes as long as it has integrity.

What's happened here is the the coronavirus has now been used for fear mongering. I'm not saying we shouldn't be cautious about it. What I'm saying is that there are ways to go about with life and not be crippled with fear. Good hygienic practices can be implemented to avoid spreading the disease. And for those that are actually at high risk, we can definitely let them do mail-in voting. I have nothing against that.

I feel that it is more apt to say that "voter fraud" is being used for fear mongering. If we go into this prepared, there is no reason to assume that mail-in voter fraud will be a significant issue. On the other hand, it is functionally impossible to negate the risk regarding coronavirus during in person voting, and the steps that can be taken the Republican party continue to sabotage, such as their closing of numerous polling sites. Further, if you accept any mail-in voting, the damage that is being done to our Postal Systems makes us less prepared to ensure that people's votes count and that there is an absence of fraud.

And we're expected to believe that Trump voters waiting in line will do anything to prevent infecting others because...?

I disagree with that since voter fraud in mail-in voting has been here long before coronavirus came in. People raised concerns about it in the past years and now it's suddenly a non-issue. The problem here is that we are enticing a lot more people to do mail-in voting regardless of whatever reason.

If you say that it is impossible to negate the risk, then that is partially true. But the same can be said with everything. There's always a risk. If we cripple ourselves too much, we are not going to function at all. I don't want to repeat myself but like I said, if people would just sit down and come up with very good measures, we can conduct it in a very safe manner. Then again, the political will form both sides are not there and would rather swing things in their favor whenever they get the chance.

With regards Republicans doing the sabotaging, I'd say that the Democrats are equally as guilty in their own ways. But I don't want to go down that rabbit hole. I will just leave it at that.

It's possible mail-in voting would be fine but there have also been some pretty high profile vote counting screw ups in recent memory (last Iowa Dem Primary, Broward County 2016 and who can forget Florida 2000!).  Maybe if there were a couple of years lead time and all parties could review the process to be satisfied that would be a reasonable plan.  On short notice, it seems like going with something tried and true is the way to go.

As a Canadian, I find it strange that a compromise can't be struck here.  I know elections in the US happen on a fixed schedule but in Canada they can be delayed. If people are so concerned about Covid maybe delay things 6 months, congress is basically a stalemate and nothing much is happening anyway.  Both sides agree to continue to fund the gov't as is, pause judicial appointments and other such stuff and vote May 2021 for a slightly shortened next term. 

The rate of mail-in voter fraud is low even though about half of US States allow individuals to vote by mail without providing any reason. Many of these states are Republican states. In Oregon, the first state to adopt a universal vote by mail system, there have only been 15 cases of voter fraud identified over 19 years. That is not a volume worth killing people for.

There is no reason for this to be controversial, however there is every reason that we should have a system which is able to handle a large volume of mail in voting ballots safely and securely. We are at more risk if we don't take steps to prepare. In 2016, almost a quarter of all ballots were cast through the mail and this will increase in 2020 without any changes to existing law. Again, there is simply no argument in favor of gimping the Postal Service to harm mail-in voting. All that accomplishes is making our voting systems less secure.

And again, we should not be asking people to weigh decisions about their health and the health of those around them in order to vote. Yes, other things carry risk sometimes (however we shouldn't really be comparing other nebulous risks to a virus which will likely have killed over 200k Americans by election day...), however, again, voting is the most fundamental right in a functioning democracy. We should seek to remove barriers to ensure that those who wish to vote are able to do so. Again, "don't put up hurdles for voting" shouldn't be a controversial statement.

As for your last statement, what is the purpose of even writing that if you aren't going to make an argument?

Trump admits he won’t fund USPS so that mail-in ballots don't arrive, admits to voter suppression so he has a chance to win in November 

This is getting to be 3rd World politics  

Nothing can stop the Trump train woot woot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZcErHHOLgY