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I loved Destiny 1. That game took over all my free time.

Good luck Bungie.



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Azzanation said:

Bungies most successful era was under a console manufacture, they were considered the best at one stage. Also funding isn't free. They will need to gather something to make games. Bungie has a lot of employees so it will be interesting what road they take. 

And yet they wish to remain free, hence the Activision split, so they wish to create something that isn't simply locked down to just one console. Also, you seem to be going back to this old "they will always do better on X, because I can see the future and it is defined and written in stone, so says me" thing going again. 

Funding isn't free, but it's not something only the big 3 can do, other publishers can as well, if not just as much, with other venues for funding existing out there as well. 

It'll be interesting to see them not take the road the few of you here want them to take.

DonFerrari said: 

Must be because most of the really good games have been exclusive to a platform or had preference for console.

Did Destiny sold more on PC?

Which is subjective, but hey, it's easy to lay claim that anything on PC is garbage right?, or resorting to just using meta scores as the holy bible of truth.

What do you think Destiny 2 sold on PC?.

 

I like how we're making this a thing, where PC sells like tripe, has nothing good on it's own end. Come on man, you're blatantly taking the mick here. 



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Chazore said:

1) And yet they wish to remain free, hence the Activision split, so they wish to create something that isn't simply locked down to just one console. Also, you seem to be going back to this old "they will always do better on X, because I can see the future and it is defined and written in stone, so says me" thing going again. 

2) Funding isn't free, but it's not something only the big 3 can do, other publishers can as well, if not just as much, with other venues for funding existing out there as well. 

3) It'll be interesting to see them not take the road the few of you here want them to take.

1) I believe Destiny's split was due to Activison being a poison brand. Forcing anti consumer practices on Bungie. I just Hope Blizzard will split from Activision as well. Google Bungie and Activison and read a bunch of articles of Bungie being unhappy with the way Activision is treating them. And as for the 2nd part of your 1st post.. umm wtf are you on about? I am going back on what now? You never stop surprising me with your replies.

2) Funding isn't free and huge studios like Bungie who only release a game once every few years isn't exactly a reliable source of income. Smaller companies spend less money and time to release games and most likely have less staff to feed.

3) It doesn't matter if they stay independent or go back with MS, either way both options allows me to play there games on PC. That's all that matters to me. 



Azzanation said:

3) It doesn't matter if they stay independent or go back with MS, either way both options allows me to play there games on PC. That's all that matters to me. 

That is why I never got invested in the franchise... There was no PC release.
So when they released the sequel on PC, I skipped over it because I felt like I was missing out on 50% of the story.

I will probably do the same with Red Dead 2 when it comes to the PC one day.
If a developer doesn't support my platform of choice, then I probably won't bother to support them to any degree. - Now Blizzard on the other hand... I generally buy everything.

In Bungies case though, they have a track record of skipping PC releases, so even if they suck back up to Microsoft, I doubt the PC will be a focal point.




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Azzanation said:

1) I believe Destiny's split was due to Activison being a poison brand. Forcing anti consumer practices on Bungie. I just Hope Blizzard will split from Activision as well. Google Bungie and Activison and read a bunch of articles of Bungie being unhappy with the way Activision is treating them. And as for the 2nd part of your 1st post.. umm wtf are you on about? I am going back on what now? You never stop surprising me with your replies.

2) Funding isn't free and huge studios like Bungie who only release a game once every few years isn't exactly a reliable source of income. Smaller companies spend less money and time to release games and most likely have less staff to feed.

3) It doesn't matter if they stay independent or go back with MS, either way both options allows me to play there games on PC. That's all that matters to me. 

It's more or less due to Activision not making enough money. Notice how Bungie gets to hold onto the IP?. Sony wanted to hold onto Sunset OD, yet they went with MS, who allowed them to hold it. When a publisher gives away the brand, after it has clearly been sullied, you know that publisher doesn't think it's worth keeping. 

I too hope Blizz splits from Activision, but most of the founding fathers and good staff are jumping ship. Blizz is hardly the same old Blizz from the old days. They need to go back to what put them on the map, which they are already trying to do with WC III: Reforged, but they need to do more than just a small remaster. 

Again, stop diverging from what I'd said before. You act like Bungie will never make anything for PC, let alone anything for PC and it selling rather well. Wtf are you on about with that logic though?. 

2. Again, other publishers that aren't the big 3 readily exist, as well as other means of funding existing out there as well. You do know that the games industry runs and thrives on other publishers,. The entire gaming industry isn't just consoles you know?. 

3. What Pemalite said, as he's put it into far better words.



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Chazore said:
Azzanation said:

1) I believe Destiny's split was due to Activison being a poison brand. Forcing anti consumer practices on Bungie. I just Hope Blizzard will split from Activision as well. Google Bungie and Activison and read a bunch of articles of Bungie being unhappy with the way Activision is treating them. And as for the 2nd part of your 1st post.. umm wtf are you on about? I am going back on what now? You never stop surprising me with your replies.

2) Funding isn't free and huge studios like Bungie who only release a game once every few years isn't exactly a reliable source of income. Smaller companies spend less money and time to release games and most likely have less staff to feed.

3) It doesn't matter if they stay independent or go back with MS, either way both options allows me to play there games on PC. That's all that matters to me. 

It's more or less due to Activision not making enough money. Notice how Bungie gets to hold onto the IP?. Sony wanted to hold onto Sunset OD, yet they went with MS, who allowed them to hold it. When a publisher gives away the brand, after it has clearly been sullied, you know that publisher doesn't think it's worth keeping. 

I too hope Blizz splits from Activision, but most of the founding fathers and good staff are jumping ship. Blizz is hardly the same old Blizz from the old days. They need to go back to what put them on the map, which they are already trying to do with WC III: Reforged, but they need to do more than just a small remaster. 

Again, stop diverging from what I'd said before. You act like Bungie will never make anything for PC, let alone anything for PC and it selling rather well. Wtf are you on about with that logic though?. 

2. Again, other publishers that aren't the big 3 readily exist, as well as other means of funding existing out there as well. You do know that the games industry runs and thrives on other publishers,. The entire gaming industry isn't just consoles you know?. 

3. What Pemalite said, as he's put it into far better words.

I dont think anybody claimed that there arent other pubishers or other means of funding. Just that other publishers or other ways of funding have a direct i give you money you gime more back. So they are more likely to enforce monetazation options if they  dnt believe they willmake a return. But for consoles is a bit diferent, while yes, they want money, their main concern is to build a brand so pushing consoles. They will be happier with a great review game than actual profit. As a great game pushes consoles then they buy other games and profit of thouse. Basicly saying they would be more hands off so the studio can be as creative as they want. I think MS only wants it to be an online multiplayer, but I think bungie wants the same.



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eva01beserk said:

I dont think anybody claimed that there arent other pubishers or other means of funding. Just that other publishers or other ways of funding have a direct i give you money you gime more back. So they are more likely to enforce monetazation options if they  dnt believe they willmake a return. But for consoles is a bit diferent, while yes, they want money, their main concern is to build a brand so pushing consoles. They will be happier with a great review game than actual profit. As a great game pushes consoles then they buy other games and profit of thouse. Basicly saying they would be more hands off so the studio can be as creative as they want. I think MS only wants it to be an online multiplayer, but I think bungie wants the same.

And yet you can be hands off and free as a bird without having to remain exclusively locked to a console.

We do have good games that aren't locked to consoles, let alone a single one you know. 



Mankind, in its arrogance and self-delusion, must believe they are the mirrors to God in both their image and their power. If something shatters that mirror, then it must be totally destroyed.

I think Sony should snatch up Bungie. Would make a good developer for exclusive multiplayer games. Gran Turismo is the only online centered WWS game on PS4, I think.



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eva01beserk said:
Chazore said:

It's more or less due to Activision not making enough money. Notice how Bungie gets to hold onto the IP?. Sony wanted to hold onto Sunset OD, yet they went with MS, who allowed them to hold it. When a publisher gives away the brand, after it has clearly been sullied, you know that publisher doesn't think it's worth keeping. 

I too hope Blizz splits from Activision, but most of the founding fathers and good staff are jumping ship. Blizz is hardly the same old Blizz from the old days. They need to go back to what put them on the map, which they are already trying to do with WC III: Reforged, but they need to do more than just a small remaster. 

Again, stop diverging from what I'd said before. You act like Bungie will never make anything for PC, let alone anything for PC and it selling rather well. Wtf are you on about with that logic though?. 

2. Again, other publishers that aren't the big 3 readily exist, as well as other means of funding existing out there as well. You do know that the games industry runs and thrives on other publishers,. The entire gaming industry isn't just consoles you know?. 

3. What Pemalite said, as he's put it into far better words.

I dont think anybody claimed that there arent other pubishers or other means of funding. Just that other publishers or other ways of funding have a direct i give you money you gime more back. So they are more likely to enforce monetazation options if they  dnt believe they willmake a return. But for consoles is a bit diferent, while yes, they want money, their main concern is to build a brand so pushing consoles. They will be happier with a great review game than actual profit. As a great game pushes consoles then they buy other games and profit of thouse. Basicly saying they would be more hands off so the studio can be as creative as they want. I think MS only wants it to be an online multiplayer, but I think bungie wants the same.

The situation with Sunset overdrive is different,Twintail in his reply to me  showed that Bungie owned the Destiny IP from day one and the ten year contract was just about publishing rights, so Activision never gave away the brand.  This seems to stem from the Chinese Publisher of Destiny taking a minor stake in Bungie and a seat on the board for $100 million. this timing would point towards them most likely being the instigator or at least co conspirator in this buyout. This backing is probably why bungie feel confident about owning the publishing rights going forward and without it bungie even if they had the financial resources to do it most likely wouldn't have made the buyout .



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Chazore said:
eva01beserk said:

I dont think anybody claimed that there arent other pubishers or other means of funding. Just that other publishers or other ways of funding have a direct i give you money you gime more back. So they are more likely to enforce monetazation options if they  dnt believe they willmake a return. But for consoles is a bit diferent, while yes, they want money, their main concern is to build a brand so pushing consoles. They will be happier with a great review game than actual profit. As a great game pushes consoles then they buy other games and profit of thouse. Basicly saying they would be more hands off so the studio can be as creative as they want. I think MS only wants it to be an online multiplayer, but I think bungie wants the same.

And yet you can be hands off and free as a bird without having to remain exclusively locked to a console.

We do have good games that aren't locked to consoles, let alone a single one you know. 

Again, yea. But the point of this was about the funding. They can be great as an indy dev, but they wont have as much resource to do be as far reaching as the can. They definetly wont have the funds to host servers if they want to go online. then they will have to implement some kind of in game purchase. 



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