Machiavellian said:
massimus said:
The Ex British spy was the one with ties to the Kremlin. He made that dossier and it did start things. That fake dossier was the main source for the spying warrant from the fisa court. Popadopalous was a set up. The Russian source that told him had ties to the FBI CIA. They fed him the line, a job and assigned drinks with the Aussie diplomat. He’s some clueless asshole and they hustled him.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/what-are-the-fbi-and-cia-hiding-1533078662
It was believed that Trump was spearheading the Russian attack by who? That’s convenient.
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Yes, British spy with ties to Russia. Isn't that what spies do. They develop contacts within other countries they spy on to you know get intel. The key is was the information within the dossier not correct.
At Bolded: You tell me. If one of your people within your camp goes around telling everyone they received information from Russian contacts concerning another candidate while those same people are getting hacked, exactly what do you believe our intelligence agencies are going to do. Yes, convenient that Trump hired multiple people with contacts with foreign power who we have proof was hacking us at this time. Even if there isn't anything there it would be silly to believe that those are not things our government would look into especially after we have seen the extent the hacking attempts being done. It was convenient that Trump asked for those missing Hillary emails and immediately efforts to obtain that information started. Everything seems very convenient especially during those times, people within Trump organization were asked multiple question on meetings they have had that they conveniently forgot then had to walk it back after people found evidence they were lying. This is why lying about such stuff always comes back to haunt you. You yes, since Trump and his people have lied multiple times and got caught on their contacts and dealings with Russia during a time we were getting hack by the them definitely made the Trump administration people of interest to the investigation.
Does it take any real leap in judgement that Trump and his people were targets or do you really going to sit there and believe that meeting in Trump tower concerning adoption was really about adoption. You know the same thing that Putin wanted to address during his summit with Trump where Congress had to pass a vote to not allow American citizens to be sent to Russia for question because the President was considering Putin offer.
Personally, I find it convenient how easily you dismiss these situations. If anything they are things that our government should be taking an interest in and trying to find the truth if possible.
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You said it was republican funded until they dropped out right? Opposition research. The Clinton campaign picked it up and an ex British spy was brought on board. The ties to Russia never entered the equation until the Clinton campaign. Steele didn't continue the dossier, it was his dossier. Of course nothing in the dossier is proven even remotely yet it is used as evidence to spy on the opposition parties political campaign. I want to see what happens when Trump uses our intelligence agencies to spy on the democrat opposition, set up traps and informants for the weak and vulnerable in their campaign. Do you think he would be treated the same? I'm glad he won. It shows the people still matter.
The people who believe it was spearheaded by Trump are the same people that used fake evidence to secure warrants. Yes I think it's awfully convenient. If I thought Trump was a complete moron then I could see your point. It was a joke, the FBI couldn't find the emails, the dems wouldn't hand over the server, Hilary deleted thousands of emails and washed hard drives that were under congress subpoena. "No reasonable prosecutor would pursue this".
Yet they will pursue some low level jerk who went to a meeting made by an FBI informant and said "he heard the russians have dirt on Hilary" from a russian professor that has close ties to American, British and Italian intelligence. If he is some uber russian agent then our intelligence is dumber than shit. I seriously doubt that though, he is just a pawn and that's why he is missing. Witness protection lmao! "Went back to russia after a job well done" Yeah okay lmao.. Why hasn't the russian professor been indicted with the other 12 Russians? Because It's all bullshit and I see right through it. I read these people like a fucking book. Papadoplous said nothing about emails, the Australian diplomat has said as much. Are you saying Papadopalous knew the DNC was being hacked? What proof do you have? He denied meeting with a russian to the FBI, that was his charge. They know exactly what he said and when, it was a set up. They fed him a line and a meeting and some fresh drunk noob trying to make himself look important ate the bait. A false statement is not proof of conspiracy. Certainly not enough to warrant the spying on an opposition party. False statements? How about false evidence to secure spy warrants from a secret court.
I don't know what happened at the tower, neither do you. Trumps state department itself said the thought was ridiculous. State policy is not a Trump tweet. I think that's where people get him wrong. The new Secretary of State Mike pompeo is actually really good. I like him.
I conveniently dismiss them when I know they are wrong. I try to explain why I think the way I do at least lol. I find it pretty crazy how easily so many are persuaded to bullshit and conspiracy. When I see some evidence then I might change my mind, so far it has been a joke and mockery of our justice system.