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Pavolink said:
Chorlin said:
Im new here, but im starting to notice certain user is a little obsessed with the Switch failing.

You shouldn't care a lot about that. Mosts users on forums (in general, not a particular userbase) don't know about reality and confuse their desires as that.

 

The important thing to get from this thread is that some NPD analyst with info that we don't have is believing Switch is going to have a good performance this year and maybe come in top.

 

Whetever users says is irrelevant.

Well, that's true.



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Pavolink said:
Chorlin said:
Im new here, but im starting to notice certain user is a little obsessed with the Switch failing.

You shouldn't care a lot about that. Mosts users on forums (in general, not a particular userbase) don't know about reality and confuse their desires as that.

 

The important thing to get from this thread is that some NPD analyst with info that we don't have is believing Switch is going to have a good performance this year and maybe come in top.

 

Whetever users says is irrelevant.

This is 100% false, the analyst said it's just he's prediction, last year he thought  xbone X would push xbox one to outsell ps4 for the year.



quickrick said:
Miyamotoo said:

But for quite time now everyone knows that Switch is selling and it will keep selling and actuly around double than XB1 and similar to PS4 in same time period, so whats a point talking about Switch!? :D

You didnt wrote what you meant, you wrote just home consoles and now you sound like you moving goal post.

When someone says "sales will fail of a cliff" everything is very clear and that doesnt mean flat sales, you thought after holiday season sales will be much worse than they were in 2017. and that Switch sales generally will be worse in 2018. compared to 2017. You again fail to see that here you are one that makes most hyperbole when comes to Switch potential and sales. When we talking about official numbers, Switch is selling similar to PS4 in same time period (second year on market), for instance you have NPD and Japan numbers how PS4 was selling in second year and how Switch now is selling in second year.

Switch is different, it's at  this point it's selling exactly around the same as 3ds but with out a price drop, but it's has a much better lineup, who to say it won't lose momentum, it's already selling less this year in the US. Nintedo is expecting a weaker Q1 then 2017, AND in 2017 stock was a huge problem, if they had stock we would be looking at a huge decline in Q1.

As for the falling off the cliff 7 months ago, get over that you're are beating a dead horse, to fit your agenda with me. it's already been explained to many times.

It's selling less right now in the US. Who cares, it's not globally in the US, and it's looking quite fine everywhere else. And that's without any real system seller yet this year while the Switch already had 2 massive ones by this point last year.

Weaker Q1 can also simply be the result of having less units on shelves/in transit. Last year there was almost none on shelves and just a few 100k in transit, while this year there were over 2M shipping and on shelves at the start of last quarter. If the number of shipped units went down by 300k but the amount in transit reduced by 700k, it would still mean more have been sold than last year despite lower shipment numbers. I hope Nintendo gives an indication on sell-through (investors asking about it in their Q&A is quite possible for instance) to see how well VGC is tracking the Switch.



Bofferbrauer2 said:
quickrick said:

Switch is different, it's at  this point it's selling exactly around the same as 3ds but with out a price drop, but it's has a much better lineup, who to say it won't lose momentum, it's already selling less this year in the US. Nintedo is expecting a weaker Q1 then 2017, AND in 2017 stock was a huge problem, if they had stock we would be looking at a huge decline in Q1.

As for the falling off the cliff 7 months ago, get over that you're are beating a dead horse, to fit your agenda with me. it's already been explained to many times.

It's selling less right now in the US. Who cares, it's not globally in the US, and it's looking quite fine everywhere else. And that's without any real system seller yet this year while the Switch already had 2 massive ones by this point last year.

Weaker Q1 can also simply be the result of having less units on shelves/in transit. Last year there was almost none on shelves and just a few 100k in transit, while this year there were over 2M shipping and on shelves at the start of last quarter. If the number of shipped units went down by 300k but the amount in transit reduced by 700k, it would still mean more have been sold than last year despite lower shipment numbers. I hope Nintendo gives an indication on sell-through (investors asking about it in their Q&A is quite possible for instance) to see how well VGC is tracking the Switch.

i suspect europe it's down as well, but in the end of the day we don't have numbers so unless nintendo shares sold through numbers, we will have to use shipping numbers.



quickrick said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

It's selling less right now in the US. Who cares, it's not globally in the US, and it's looking quite fine everywhere else. And that's without any real system seller yet this year while the Switch already had 2 massive ones by this point last year.

Weaker Q1 can also simply be the result of having less units on shelves/in transit. Last year there was almost none on shelves and just a few 100k in transit, while this year there were over 2M shipping and on shelves at the start of last quarter. If the number of shipped units went down by 300k but the amount in transit reduced by 700k, it would still mean more have been sold than last year despite lower shipment numbers. I hope Nintendo gives an indication on sell-through (investors asking about it in their Q&A is quite possible for instance) to see how well VGC is tracking the Switch.

i suspect europe it's down as well, but in the end of the day we don't have numbers so unless nintendo shares sold through numbers, we will have to use shipping numbers.

It's down how much in the US btw?



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Bofferbrauer2 said:
quickrick said:

i suspect europe it's down as well, but in the end of the day we don't have numbers so unless nintendo shares sold through numbers, we will have to use shipping numbers.

It's down how much in the US btw?

Through June

NPD

2017-~1.55m

2018-~1.20m (thru May)

 

Media Create

2017-1.04m

2018-1.22m

 

Not sure how NPD June will play out but it should be in the 200-250k range which would mean its basically flat YoY in US+JP in the first half of the year.

Europe may be slightly down like US but Switch is also available in some RotW countries this year that it wasnt last year.

Overall its probably pretty even globally YoY.



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zorg1000 said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

It's down how much in the US btw?

Through June

NPD

2017-~1.55m

2018-~1.20m (thru May)

 

Media Create

2017-1.04m

2018-1.22m

 

Not sure how NPD June will play out but it should be in the 200-250k range which would mean its basically flat YoY in US+JP in the first half of the year.

Europe may be slightly down like US but Switch is also available in some RotW countries this year that it wasnt last year.

Overall its probably pretty even globally YoY.

Thx for the analysis, was about to make it myself from that data.



quickrick said:
Pavolink said:

You shouldn't care a lot about that. Mosts users on forums (in general, not a particular userbase) don't know about reality and confuse their desires as that.

 

The important thing to get from this thread is that some NPD analyst with info that we don't have is believing Switch is going to have a good performance this year and maybe come in top.

 

Whetever users says is irrelevant.

This is 100% false, the analyst said it's just he's prediction, last year he thought  xbone X would push xbox one to outsell ps4 for the year.

And you believe he doesn't have access to more data than us? Please.

You are just mad because it's not the console of your preference the one predicted to be on top and are looking to discret a simple prediction.



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Pavolink said:
quickrick said:

This is 100% false, the analyst said it's just he's prediction, last year he thought  xbone X would push xbox one to outsell ps4 for the year.

And you believe he doesn't have access to more data than us? Please.

You are just mad because it's not the console of your preference the one predicted to be on top and are looking to discret a simple prediction.

of course he has  more data, but it has nothing do with his prediction. based on the data we have ps4 has been beating switch 4 out of the 5 months this year.



quickrick said:
Miyamotoo said:

But for quite time now everyone knows that Switch is selling and it will keep selling and actuly around double than XB1 and similar to PS4 in same time period, so whats a point talking about Switch!? :D

You didnt wrote what you meant, you wrote just home consoles and now you sound like you moving goal post.

When someone says "sales will fail of a cliff" everything is very clear and that doesnt mean flat sales, you thought after holiday season sales will be much worse than they were in 2017. and that Switch sales generally will be worse in 2018. compared to 2017. You again fail to see that here you are one that makes most hyperbole when comes to Switch potential and sales. When we talking about official numbers, Switch is selling similar to PS4 in same time period (second year on market), for instance you have NPD and Japan numbers how PS4 was selling in second year and how Switch now is selling in second year.

Switch is different, it's at  this point it's selling exactly around the same as 3ds but with out a price drop, but it's has a much better lineup, who to say it won't lose momentum, it's already selling less this year in the US. Nintedo is expecting a weaker Q1 then 2017, AND in 2017 stock was a huge problem, if they had stock we would be looking at a huge decline in Q1.

As for the falling off the cliff 7 months ago, get over that you're are beating a dead horse, to fit your agenda with me. it's already been explained to many times.

No, Switch is selling obviously better than 3DS in same time period, and like you wrote whitout huge price drop, also Switch lineup this year until now wasnt strong and its whithout any big game compared to last year in same time period, and despite that Switch is selling similar to last year (so it keeed momentum). If you look at Switch lineup is actually quite impressive that Switch continue to selling very good despite not had any big game until now (that implys that later with stronger lineup and stronger games sales can be only much beter), but again, thats only one quarter, Nintendo always have strongest sales in second half of year espacily in FY Q3 (Oct-Dec) where they usualy have similar or even better sales than in other 3 quarters combined, and this FY Q3 look espacily strong for Switch with MarioParty+Pokemon+SmashBros. Switch will easily sell more in FY 2018. than it sold in FY 2017.

Your posts fit with your agenda that keep pushing with Switch, yours "falling off the cliff" post don't need explanation at all, its very self explained post. :D

Last edited by Miyamotoo - on 11 July 2018