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Miyamotoo on 20 June 2018
quickrick said:
Miyamotoo said:

Quite opposite, quite good numbers all things considered, Switch is still selling good and on pair with last year despite fact that Switch still didnt had big game this year, while PS4 had few heavy hitters and XB1 regularly have deals and price cuts including May.

Its down around 20% from last year, and if switch wasn't  so supply constrained last year the gap would be much bigger.

Its expected that April would probably be worse compared to last year because of on last year April Switch launch had effect, May of this year is actually YOY. Despite Switch was supply constrained last year sell numbers were good in any case, and Switch now is selling similar whithout huge game compared to last year when we had Zelda BotW and MK8D until now.

 

DonFerrari said:
Miyamotoo said:

Again, last year sales were good in any case and despite stock problems, fact that Switch could sell better with better stocks dont change point that Switch had good numbers in any case. If you still don't get I cant really help you.

 

On other note, sales for second May on market:

PS4 - 153k (Trade-in Deal)

XB1- 140k (Halo: MCC Bundle)

Switch - 167k (Hyrule Warriors, DKTF legs)

So you could say 2018 Switch sales were good (without comparing to 2017), and do 2017 without excusing stocks, that is the point.

You can't have the argument two fold, "2017 we didn't sell great because we had stock issues, but 2018 is good because we sold equal to 2017". It is, 2017 and 2018 had good sales, period.

 

zorg1000 said:

What are you even arguing about? Its not an either/or situation.

Last year had supply issues but sales were still good and this years sales are good.

I'm arguing exactly the person doing an either/or.

If you say 2018 sales are good because it is similar to 2017 then you shouldn't be excusing 2017 on stock. Because saying 2017 would be bigger with more stock, then 2018 isn't good since it only done equal 2017 because 2017 had stock issues.

Yeah, I can say that Switch sales this year are good whitout comparing to last year or PS4 second year on market, but there is nothing wrong  even if you compare them to last year Switch numbers or second PS4 year because we talking about similar numbers.

You still have hard time realising that Switch last year very good sales numbers despite stock problems, it could sell even more with more stock problems, but sales on first place were good in any case.

Like Zorg wrote, "Last year had supply issues but sales were still good and this years sales are good", its simple as that, but from some reason you still can get it.

 

 

Farsala said:
Miyamotoo said:

Again, last year sales were good in any case and despite stock problems, fact that Switch could sell better with better stocks dont change point that Switch had good numbers in any case. If you still don't get I cant really help you.

 

On other note, sales for second May on market:

PS4 - 153k (Trade-in Deal)

XB1- 140k (Halo: MCC Bundle)

Switch - 167k (Hyrule Warriors, DKTF legs)

Again, it is hard to say Switch sales are good when it has 2 games in the top 10 and only manages to beat PS4's worst May by a slim margin, and not coming close to the others.

Games can be sold well but they are not big system seller games like games I mentioned, fact that Switch second May is stronger than second PS4 May and better than best XB1 May tell us that this years Switch May numbers are not bad.

Farsala said:
zorg1000 said:

No hes not.

Saying 2017 had stock issues is not saying that sales were bad, its saying that sales could have been better.

If 2017 sales were good than 2018 sales are good as well since they are the same.

But 2017 sales weren't good. Stock issues were a viable excuse though. Being a tiny step above PS4's worst May with 2 software releases in top 4 isn't good, its okay.

Fact is that 2017. sales were good, numbers proves you are wrong, despite stock problems, Switch had best 1st year ever in US.

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flashfire926 on 20 June 2018
Errorist76 said:
flashfire926 said:

Not really. May 2018 was the best May for Xbox One in the US.

It would be strange if it wasn’t, considering the extremely low price and a brand new console on the market.

It’s just barely above 2015 btw.

 

flashfire926 said: 
XBO:
2014 - 77k
2015 - 140k 
2016 - 107k 
2017 - 109k 
2018 - 145k 
PS4:
2014 - 197k 
2015 - 153k 
2016 - 207k 
2017 - 187k
2018 - 223k 
NSW:
2017 - 165k 
2018 - 167k 

Stolen from resetera, sales for the month of May for every year. This is the best month of May for all three consoles, as you can see.

thats only cause April 2015 was the debut of the master chief collection bundle.

The "normal" was 2016-2017.



Bet with Intrinsic:

The Switch will outsell 3DS (based on VGchartz numbers), according to me, while Intrinsic thinks the opposite will hold true. One month avatar control for the loser's avatar.

quickrick on 20 June 2018
Miyamotoo said:
quickrick said:

Its down around 20% from last year, and if switch wasn't  so supply constrained last year the gap would be much bigger.

Its expected that April would probably be worse compared to last year because of on last year April Switch launch had effect, May of this year is actually YOY. Despite Switch was supply constrained last year sell numbers were good in any case, and Switch now is selling similar whithout huge game compared to last year when we had Zelda BotW and MK8D until now.

 

DonFerrari said:

So you could say 2018 Switch sales were good (without comparing to 2017), and do 2017 without excusing stocks, that is the point.

You can't have the argument two fold, "2017 we didn't sell great because we had stock issues, but 2018 is good because we sold equal to 2017". It is, 2017 and 2018 had good sales, period.

I'm arguing exactly the person doing an either/or.

If you say 2018 sales are good because it is similar to 2017 then you shouldn't be excusing 2017 on stock. Because saying 2017 would be bigger with more stock, then 2018 isn't good since it only done equal 2017 because 2017 had stock issues.

Yeah, I can say that Switch sales this year are good whitout comparing to last year or PS4 second year on market, but there is nothing wrong  even if you compare them to last year Switch numbers or second PS4 year because we talking about similar numbers.

You still have hard time realising that Switch last year very good sales numbers despite stock problems, it could sell even more with more stock problems, but sales on first place were good in any case.

Like Zorg wrote, "Last year had supply issues but sales were still good and this years sales are good", its simple as that, but from some reason you still can get it.

 

 

This is funny coming from you, just get ready to have my pic on your avatar when you lose the bet. All we heard from you last year and early this year is how switch would demolish 2017 sales because of stock issues, now this year sales are down, sales are good but are closer to xbox great year then ps4 great year so far, even with the extra week switch got.



zimerust on 20 June 2018

None of these numbers make any sense. Switch is still at 17.5M on the front page, but was reported by Nintendo themselves at 17.9 at the end of March? All of these numbers are bullshit.



quickrick on 20 June 2018
zimerust said:

None of these numbers make any sense. Switch is still at 17.5M on the front page, but was reported by Nintendo themselves at 17.9 at the end of March? All of these numbers are bullshit.

Shipped numbers are not  sold through numbers. Do some research before making silly comments.



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Miyamotoo on 20 June 2018
quickrick said:
Miyamotoo said:

Its expected that April would probably be worse compared to last year because of on last year April Switch launch had effect, May of this year is actually YOY. Despite Switch was supply constrained last year sell numbers were good in any case, and Switch now is selling similar whithout huge game compared to last year when we had Zelda BotW and MK8D until now.

This is funny coming from you, just get ready to have my pic on your avatar when you lose the bet. All we heard from you last year and early this year is how switch would demolish 2017 sales because of stock issues, now this year sales are down, sales are good but are closer to xbox great year then ps4 great year so far, even with the extra week switch got.

Quite bold post because come from that wrote that "Switch sales will fall of a cliff after Holiday season". :D

If you recall our bet is from April until August, April was down, May is slightly up, and Switch lineup is getting stronger from May and June.

This years Switch sales are currently very comparable to PS4 second year, and that with fact Switch still didnt had big game this year.



irstupid on 20 June 2018
Barkley said:

VGC numbers for this period:

PS4 - 256k (15% overtracked)
NSW - 200k (20% overtracked)
XBO - 150k (1% overtracked)

So seems everyone was over tracked, Switch was overtracked the most, with PS4 close behind, and XBO was pretty much spot on.

Adjustments down all round.

Depends on how you look at it on which was overtracked the most.

Switch was overtracked by 34k

PS4 was overtracked by 35k

So PS4 was by raw numbers, Switch by percentage, but really it looks like they were overtracked the exact same amount. Seems kind of strange that both would be overtracked by 35,000. Wonder what VG was using that they would both be overtracked by the same amount.



zimerust on 20 June 2018

"As of March 31, Nintendo is reporting that 17.79 Nintendo Switches have been sold -- not shipped, but sold -- worldwide."

 

http://comicbook.com/gaming/2018/04/26/nintendo-switch-sales-revealed/

 

Again, That figure of 17.5M is total bullshit.  That was from their financial report, not some forum guestimating.  Here we are 3 months(roughly) ahead and...yeah.  



quickrick on 20 June 2018
Miyamotoo said:
quickrick said:

This is funny coming from you, just get ready to have my pic on your avatar when you lose the bet. All we heard from you last year and early this year is how switch would demolish 2017 sales because of stock issues, now this year sales are down, sales are good but are closer to xbox great year then ps4 great year so far, even with the extra week switch got.

Funny this comes from, MR "Switch sales will fall of a cliff after Holiday season". :D

If you recall our bet is from April until August, April was down, May is slightly up, and Switch lineup is getting stronger from May and June.

This years Switch sales are currently very comparable to PS4 second year, and that with fact Switch still didnt had big game this year.

yea remember the bet was that switch would have to outsell ps4 2015 by 100k in those months. next month ps4 did 360k, and switch will probably do around 200k, if you think you have a chance of winning, all i can say is good luck lol. as for the falling of the cliff comment i never really meant it, and it was more to get reactions which wasn't a good idea i admit, but i clarified a million times it will be slightly down in US and europe.



yvanjean on 20 June 2018
zimerust said:

None of these numbers make any sense. Switch is still at 17.5M on the front page, but was reported by Nintendo themselves at 17.9 at the end of March? All of these numbers are bullshit.

If your going to join the VGChartz forums at least make a little effort to educate yourself. None of the Sony/Nintendo/Microsoft release firm numbers on a regular basis, VGChartz and NPD are simply using best available numbers with a percentage of prediction. VGChartz are constantly adjusting their numbers when new better data comes out. 

With most of the information that was release at E3 on total sales... Sony numbers are the most accurate because Sony release numbers more often, but both Nintendo and Microsoft are under tracked right now.  In the past most consoles are normally undertracked, So stop bitching about switch numbers when Sony and Microsoft could also be undertracked. IF it wasn't for site like VGChartz you'd barely get any information on total sales. Unless the company decide to announce it.