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Bloodborne or Dark Souls 3 for a Souls-newbie?

Bloodborne 22 66.67%
 
Dark Souls 3 10 30.30%
 
Both equally 1 3.03%
 
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Alara317 said:
JinxRake said:

Start with Bloodborne.
Learn the game well on a two handed weapon.
Switch over to Dark Souls 3 and go straight for great swords or ultra great swords.
Have the time of your life.
The end.

 

Or, alternatively, find a friend and do coop with them. Then it won't matter if you're a noob or not.

Or this, yeah. Dark Souls is a breeze co op, but Bloodborne is still a bit of a challenge. 

Me and a buddy did Bloodborne and Dark Souls 3 back to back coop and I think we've died a whole lot more in Dark Souls than in Bloodborne. We're both veterans of the Souls game, but even so.
I'd say Bloodborne is a lot easier in coop if there are two people doing heavy weapons. From there it's just a matter of stun lock.



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ninson95 said:
Dr.Vita said:
Why not start with the original Dark Souls? It's the perfect time to play it since it just got a Remastered version.

Between Dark Souls 3 and Bloodborne I would say that Bloodborne is the more accessible game while Dark Souls 3 is the easier game for beginners. But you should know that if you want to enjoy Dark Souls 3 as much as possible then you need to play the original Dark Souls first.

Well I thought about it but if I am correct Dark Souls 1 is considered the most difficult one from all souls-games including Nioh and Bloodborne and to be honest I wanna get familiar with the gameplay first before going for such a difficult game^^

The difference in difficulty between all of the games is tiny. They're all more or less the same difficulty.



I was in a very similar situation to you a couple of years back when Bloodborne came out. Of course, at the time Dark Souls 3 hadn't been released but I wanted to get into the Souls-like genre. So I bought Bloodborne for $15 a couple of months after it launched. And I enjoyed the setting and Gothic styling to it a great deal. The gameplay took some getting used to as my first Souls game but I got the hang of it and enjoyed exploring the world for the opening of the game. Then it happened...

I hit Father Gascoigne. And this wall was a wall I have never gotten passed. I've made more than 100 attempts. My play time in the game is well over 25 hours and I'm just stuck. I put the game on the backburner and planned on going back to it another day.

This year I got Dark Souls 3 in January. I'll say this - the difficulty of Dark Souls 3 is set a lot more immediately. The first boss and mini boss are all experienced within the first half hour of play. But it's a difficulty that scales much better with both character progression and gamer skill progression. I managed to work my way through all of Dark Souls 3 and even beat all the optional bosses in the base game. It was an amazing experience.

After having accomplished that I recently went back to Bloodborne for a couple of 3 hour stints of getting beaten by Father Gascoigne time and time again and have put the game on the backburner yet again.

But that's just my experience. A lot of what people have said about your play style with games does matter and I'm always a more defensive and methodical player vs someone who can react in the moment well.



trasharmdsister12 said:

I was in a very similar situation to you a couple of years back when Bloodborne came out. Of course, at the time Dark Souls 3 hadn't been released but I wanted to get into the Souls-like genre. So I bought Bloodborne for $15 a couple of months after it launched. And I enjoyed the setting and Gothic styling to it a great deal. The gameplay took some getting used to as my first Souls game but I got the hang of it and enjoyed exploring the world for the opening of the game. Then it happened...

I hit Father Gascoigne. And this wall was a wall I have never gotten passed. I've made more than 100 attempts. My play time in the game is well over 25 hours and I'm just stuck. I put the game on the backburner and planned on going back to it another day.

This year I got Dark Souls 3 in January. I'll say this - the difficulty of Dark Souls 3 is set a lot more immediately. The first boss and mini boss are all experienced within the first half hour of play. But it's a difficulty that scales much better with both character progression and gamer skill progression. I managed to work my way through all of Dark Souls 3 and even beat all the optional bosses in the base game. It was an amazing experience.

After having accomplished that I recently went back to Bloodborne for a couple of 3 hour stints of getting beaten by Father Gascoigne time and time again and have put the game on the backburner yet again.

But that's just my experience. A lot of what people have said about your play style with games does matter and I'm always a more defensive and methodical player vs someone who can react in the moment well.

Did you find the music box? If you talk to the little girl and get the music box, you can use that to stun him and get a few combos in on him (Two while human, one while transformed). In addition, I recommend running up the stairs when he becomes a werewolf to make him follow you and get some hits while he's still climbing the stairs. After, keep running and going down over the little shed, and repeat the process. As long as you have the upper ground (anakin), you can get a few good hits in. 

He really is an intense first real boss,  and exactly why I tend to recommend Dark Souls for beginners. If you're not outstanding at bloodborne, Father Gascoine is going to put an end to your session every time. 

Even now, after beating the game a dozen times and getting the platinum, I still find him one of the hardest bosses in the game. 



Alara317 said: 

Did you find the music box? If you talk to the little girl and get the music box, you can use that to stun him and get a few combos in on him (Two while human, one while transformed). In addition, I recommend running up the stairs when he becomes a werewolf to make him follow you and get some hits while he's still climbing the stairs. After, keep running and going down over the little shed, and repeat the process. As long as you have the upper ground (anakin), you can get a few good hits in. 

He really is an intense first real boss,  and exactly why I tend to recommend Dark Souls for beginners. If you're not outstanding at bloodborne, Father Gascoine is going to put an end to your session every time. 

Even now, after beating the game a dozen times and getting the platinum, I still find him one of the hardest bosses in the game. 

I did find the music box that stuns him. I even cheese the first half of the fight using the gravestones and whip. For whatever reason when I fight him I can't seem to dodge when he jumps way up into the air and lands on me in beast form. He ALWAYS lands on me no matter what I seem to do. From that point on he just has me stun locked for multiple combos where my character is still trying to get up. I don't know if there's a lag in my display that doesn't register my input quick enough or what but I've just been unable to stave off his attacks once he transforms. 

I even went back after mastering a few of the more difficult bosses in Dark Souls 3 through the coop summoning and Gasciogne still wrecks me.



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trasharmdsister12 said:

I did find the music box that stuns him. I even cheese the first half of the fight using the gravestones and whip. For whatever reason when I fight him I can't seem to dodge when he jumps way up into the air and lands on me in beast form. He ALWAYS lands on me no matter what I seem to do. From that point on he just has me stun locked for multiple combos where my character is still trying to get up. I don't know if there's a lag in my display that doesn't register my input quick enough or what but I've just been unable to stave off his attacks once he transforms. 

I even went back after mastering a few of the more difficult bosses in Dark Souls 3 through the coop summoning and Gasciogne still wrecks me.

WHIP? There is your first problem. Like I said in my previous comment, dodging away and running doesnt really work well in Bloodborne(with a few exceptions). You will be much better off by dodging to the side or behind the boss while he does a combo attack. For father G the easiest way to kill him is to learn how to parry with a gun, when he transforms it becomes even easier to parry him and you can just kill him after 3 or 4 visceral attacks.



Azuren said:
My theory is Bloodborne was made to be difficult, but more difficult for Souls vets than anyone else by forcing them out of their comfort zone (which is usually behind a shield). New players will be more at home with the frenetic dodge-heavy gameplay of Bloodborne than those used to Dark Souls' block and poke style.

This is exactly how it went down for me.  Found Bloodborne quite difficult to get used to because I'd already been playing DeS, DS1, and DS2 at that point.  I can switch between them pretty easily now, but when it first came out, it was very tough.



trasharmdsister12 said:

Alara317 said: 

Did you find the music box? If you talk to the little girl and get the music box, you can use that to stun him and get a few combos in on him (Two while human, one while transformed). In addition, I recommend running up the stairs when he becomes a werewolf to make him follow you and get some hits while he's still climbing the stairs. After, keep running and going down over the little shed, and repeat the process. As long as you have the upper ground (anakin), you can get a few good hits in. 

He really is an intense first real boss,  and exactly why I tend to recommend Dark Souls for beginners. If you're not outstanding at bloodborne, Father Gascoine is going to put an end to your session every time. 

Even now, after beating the game a dozen times and getting the platinum, I still find him one of the hardest bosses in the game. 

I did find the music box that stuns him. I even cheese the first half of the fight using the gravestones and whip. For whatever reason when I fight him I can't seem to dodge when he jumps way up into the air and lands on me in beast form. He ALWAYS lands on me no matter what I seem to do. From that point on he just has me stun locked for multiple combos where my character is still trying to get up. I don't know if there's a lag in my display that doesn't register my input quick enough or what but I've just been unable to stave off his attacks once he transforms. 

I even went back after mastering a few of the more difficult bosses in Dark Souls 3 through the coop summoning and Gasciogne still wrecks me.

BB is more aggressive when it comes to dealing with combat you were fine in DS because the series is more geared towards defence, the whip is not really ideal for the boss I found the Saw Cleaver to be the best weapon in the game tbh, fight him on the stairs as its easier to read his movement and the are less obstacles as well as it boxing him in a controlled area if you have Molotovs use them as they work well in this fight learning to parry  is a big help in the first phase of the fight.



I don't get the answers in here.

Out of Dark Souls, Demon Souls, Bloodborne, Nioh and Dark Souls 3 (all base games), Bloodborne was by far the easiest.

Maybe because I play aggressive style in every game, so Bloodborne naturally made it easier. Dark Souls 3 definitely has more natural progression, but the bosses are much harder. In fact the difficulty I had with Bloodborne was when I stumbled upon the wrong zone at a really low level and rammed my head face first into the regular enemies one shotting me over and over again, but the bosses are chumps.



trasharmdsister12 said:

I was in a very similar situation to you a couple of years back when Bloodborne came out. Of course, at the time Dark Souls 3 hadn't been released but I wanted to get into the Souls-like genre. So I bought Bloodborne for $15 a couple of months after it launched. And I enjoyed the setting and Gothic styling to it a great deal. The gameplay took some getting used to as my first Souls game but I got the hang of it and enjoyed exploring the world for the opening of the game. Then it happened...

I hit Father Gascoigne. And this wall was a wall I have never gotten passed. I've made more than 100 attempts. My play time in the game is well over 25 hours and I'm just stuck. I put the game on the backburner and planned on going back to it another day.

This year I got Dark Souls 3 in January. I'll say this - the difficulty of Dark Souls 3 is set a lot more immediately. The first boss and mini boss are all experienced within the first half hour of play. But it's a difficulty that scales much better with both character progression and gamer skill progression. I managed to work my way through all of Dark Souls 3 and even beat all the optional bosses in the base game. It was an amazing experience.

After having accomplished that I recently went back to Bloodborne for a couple of 3 hour stints of getting beaten by Father Gascoigne time and time again and have put the game on the backburner yet again.

But that's just my experience. A lot of what people have said about your play style with games does matter and I'm always a more defensive and methodical player vs someone who can react in the moment well.

Quite fascinating indeed.

As an aggressive playstyle type of person, I beat Father Gascoigne on the first try. Nameless King on the other hand was almost impossible for me to kill solo. If I tried 100 times then I win maybe 1/100 with my 2h axe.