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SuperRetroTurbo on 29 May 2018
Nem said:
Ka-pi96 said:

A bun is bread, yes. But the definition clearly says "two pieces of bread". A bun is only one piece

Cut it in half and it's two! Ta-da!

OdinHades said:

What about the big mac? It has three pieces of bread which doesn't fit the definition! 

It's an interesting point. It may be a double sandwich then.

No it isn't. A sub roll is cut horizontally just like a hot dog roll. If it doesn't make a hot dog a sandwich then neither are subs by that definition. 



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SuperRetroTurbo on 29 May 2018

The original pizza called the " marinara" was made without cheese. Cheese was later added as a topping to cater to royalty. Specifically mozzarella the cheese we know and enjoy on our pizza today. It was used primarily to mimic the colors of the Italian flag. (White) Basil was used for green and tomato was used to invoke red. This pizza was called the "margarita"...and served as the basis for modern day pizza. Besides...other cheeses can be added on TOP of the mozz like in a taco pizza...where cheddar is used. Plus why would they call it a cheese pizza? We would just call it a pizza...?...



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slab_of_bacon on 30 May 2018

This is more of a poll of how open minded one is.



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Nem on 30 May 2018
SuperRetroTurbo said:
Nem said:

Cut it in half and it's two! Ta-da!

It's an interesting point. It may be a double sandwich then.

No it isn't. A sub roll is cut horizontally just like a hot dog roll. If it doesn't make a hot dog a sandwich then neither are subs by that definition. 

 

Dude, stop making s**t up. How it's cut is besides the point. The dictionary definition is what counts, not what you say. If it's between 2 pieces of bread, it's classified as a sandwich. You can give it whatever names you want on top of that.

Nem on 30 May 2018
Ka-pi96 said:
Nem said:

 

Dude, stop making s**t up. How it's cut is besides the point. The dictionary definition is what counts, not what you say. If it's between 2 pieces of bread, it's classified as a sandwich. You can give it whatever names you want on top of that.

Says the guy who claims a bun with a hotdog in is two pieces of bread...

 

This again? You cut the bun in half to put stuff in it. It IS 2 pieces of bread. unless you put your sausage on top of the bun. No, i don't think you do.

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Nem on 30 May 2018
Ka-pi96 said:
Nem said:

 

This again? You cut the bun in half to put stuff in it. It IS 2 pieces of bread. unless you put your sausage on top of the bun. No, i don't think you do.

If you're doing it right you don't cut it in half though. You cut a hole into it to put the sausage in, the cut doesn't go right the way through. It's one piece with a hole for food in, not two separate pieces.

 

Well, that's a very specific hot dog. If you google hot dog and go to images, the regular hot dog is a bun cut in half. http://www.google.com/search?q=hot+dog&hl=en-NL&gbv=2&prmd=ivnsm&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiTk-v3kK3bAhXCaxQKHeitCj4Q_AUIBQ I think i know what you mean, as it's an industrial thing. It may have a different name, but i'm not sure what it's called in english. Something like this (but with a bun)? https://www.taste.com.au/recipes/easy-sausage-rolls/a5f551c1-ca33-43e1-a9e2-30c8394af837

Nem on 30 May 2018
Ka-pi96 said:
Nem said:

 

Well, that's a very specific hot dog. If you google hot dog and go to images, the regular hot dog is a bun cut in half. http://www.google.com/search?q=hot+dog&hl=en-NL&gbv=2&prmd=ivnsm&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiTk-v3kK3bAhXCaxQKHeitCj4Q_AUIBQ I think i know what you mean, as it's an industrial thing. It may have a different name, but i'm not sure what it's called in english. Something like this? https://www.taste.com.au/recipes/easy-sausage-rolls/a5f551c1-ca33-43e1-a9e2-30c8394af837

I wasn't talking about sausage rolls (that's also pastry rather than bread anyways), but those regular hot dog buns aren't completely cut in half. The bread is still joined together at the bottom, if it were a complete cut the sausage would fall out the bottom as you try to eat it. It's still one piece of bread around a sausage.

 

Oh so that's what you were on about. No, you keep it joined so the sausage doesn't fall off but it's still 2 pieces of bread. The meat is still literally between 2 pieces of bread. I get what you are saying as one tiny piece is still holding them together, but you do know that's a strawman. 99% of that bun is cut in half and is being used as 2 pieces of bread to containt the ingredients between them. The little straw holding them together is not what defines it. Last edited by Nem - on 30 May 2018

Nem on 30 May 2018
Ka-pi96 said:
Nem said:

 

Oh so that's what you were on about. No, you keep it joined so the sausage doesn't fall off but it's still 2 pieces of bread. The meat is still literally between 2 pieces of bread. I get what you are saying as one tiny piece is still holding them together, but you do know that's a strawman. 99% of that bun is cut in half and is being used as 2 pieces of bread to containt the ingredients between them. The little straw holding them together is not what defines it.

I'll forever disagree with that. As long as both sides are still joint together they are part of the same thing and not two separate things.

 

I noticed the dictionary has an american translation as well. " slices or pieces of meat, cheese, salads, etc., put between two pieces of bread that are held together by the person who picks them up when ready to eat: " Maybe that definition makes more sense to you. Otherwise, sure, we can disagree. I would point out you are more focused on the bun's shape than it's function. The shape doesn't matter. it's wether theres ingredients between 2 pieces of bread. It's not about geometry. The bun/s can have any form or shape. Aslong as the ingredients are between them. Last edited by Nem - on 30 May 2018

Pagan on 30 May 2018

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DonFerrari on 30 May 2018
Nem said:
Ka-pi96 said:

Aside from the fact that there are multiple dictionaries, you yourself gave an answer that disagreed with the definitions you gave

A hotdog is not "two pieces of bread with cheese, salad, or meat, usually cold, between them :" which is what your dictionary definition said, yet you still said the opposite. Your soup definition is overly simplistic as well since it doesn't distinguish the differences between say soup and stew which aren't the same.

Huh? Yes, it is. A bun is bread, you know that? 

Also it's not MY definition. It's Cambridge's dictionary's. A renowned university.  All other definitions i saw here were pulled out of their rear end. Aka opinions. They got not value in comparison.

Fallacy of authority at its best.



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