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CGI-Quality said:
VGPolyglot said:

Then why is a 4/10 such a big issue for you? If you acknowledge that a 98 for GTAIV is something that you diverge from, wouldn't that mean that disparities in opinion can diverge from the average score?

Because if I graded GTA IV, it would be based on the sum of its parts, not whether or not I like open world games like it. And, here's the kicker, I never said what grade I'd give it. I just said that I don't think it's as great as that Metascore suggests.

So, you can stop chasing me around looking for something that's been explained to you already. :P

But what's wrong with someone who doesn't like open-world games reviewing it? There are consumers who also don't like open-world games, and want the opinion of someone who doesn't to see if it'd be something that they may enjoy or not.



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CGI-Quality said:
Zkuq said:
Sounds fairly good. Obviously it's not great, but considering that stuff like this never seems to end up getting great reviews, this is pretty good.

Detroit, to me, is as good as it gets. It hits all of the right notes and even ones I didn't expect. I'll never let a number dictate what's 'great' and what isn't. GTA IV sits at an extremely high Metascore, yet, I didn't find it great.

The only obvious thing is that some will like it and others won't.

I was talking about the score, not the game.



VGPolyglot said:
CGI-Quality said:

Because if I graded GTA IV, it would be based on the sum of its parts, not whether or not I like open world games like it. And, here's the kicker, I never said what grade I'd give it. I just said that I don't think it's as great as that Metascore suggests.

So, you can stop chasing me around looking for something that's been explained to you already. :P

But what's wrong with someone who doesn't like open-world games reviewing it? There are consumers who also don't like open-world games, and want the opinion of someone who doesn't to see if it'd be something that they may enjoy or not.

I hate shooters, but i wouldn't tear into a game on that premise alone. I think critiquing anything requires a tad more critical deduction to judge it properly. Like technical accolades for one, performance should be important. I ask "what is this game's objective and how well it accomplishs that for anyone playing it?"

 

Your 6th grade teacher graded your paper on the merit of completing tye objective, not whether she enjoyed the topic or not. That teacher probably sees 100s of the same subject paper, but u didn't get an F for not reinventing the wheel.

Thats why i can't take a game that isn't an absolute broken mess being rated below what is considered average. Whether that benchmark is 5 or 7/10, a 4 is too low for this game. It is at minimum, functional.

 

I think most see scoring this way, but in the heat of a game release reviewers are subconsciously trying to offset what they suspect the metascore to be.



      

      

      

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CGI-Quality said:
Zkuq said:

I was talking about the score, not the game.

I know what you were talking about, which is why I said I'd never let a score determine what is great and what isn't.

Ah, I see.



forevercloud3000 said:
VGPolyglot said:

But what's wrong with someone who doesn't like open-world games reviewing it? There are consumers who also don't like open-world games, and want the opinion of someone who doesn't to see if it'd be something that they may enjoy or not.

I hate shooters, but i wouldn't tear into a game on that premise alone. I think critiquing anything requires a tad more critical deduction to judge it properly. Like technical accolades for one, performance should be important. I ask "what is this game's objective and how well it accomplishs that for anyone playing it?"

 

Your 6th grade teacher graded your paper on the merit of completing tye objective, not whether she enjoyed the topic or not. That teacher probably sees 100s of the same subject paper, but u didn't get an F for not reinventing the wheel.

Thats why i can't take a game that isn't an absolute broken mess being rated below what is considered average. Whether that benchmark is 5 or 7/10, a 4 is too low for this game. It is at minimum, functional.

 

I think most see scoring this way, but in the heat of a game release reviewers are subconsciously trying to offset what they suspect the metascore to be.

There's a huge difference between a 6th-grade teacher and a game reviewer, a teacher generally has to follow an established set of guidelines that were determined by the educational board of that jurisdiction, whereas there is no standardized system for how a game has to be reviewed. Also, if it's entirely based on the merit of completing the objective, should a game that is released and is intentionally poor receive a high score because it completed its objective of being a poor game?



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Cerebralbore101 said:
All reviewers should be forced to post their gamerscores, trophies, and steam achievements. That way people can look, see how many games a reviewer has played, and then laugh, at the freelance writer giving a score of 4/10 (Because he has almost no achievements and doesn't actually play videogames for fun.)

There was a game on X1 that a female reviewer gave some negatives on the review and scored lower (probably 80) than some fanboys wanted.

They persecuted the girl demanding her gamescore to see how much she played and to see if she wasn't a Sony fangirl.

 

One point is that most reviewers use the company login instead of their own, because those games are review material for the company not them.

 

@thread: I love how many people says that if you don't give large value on the grades why are we commenting and also complaining about we disagreeing with trolling reviews... but then they are here also saying it doesn't matter but keep pestering.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

And I laugh at people saying about it is good to have people that hate the genre do reviews with that hate in mind so people that doesn't like the genre read it before deciding to buy.
Do you guys have so much free time and money that you buy lot of games from genres you absolutely hate and need the help of reviewers that also hate it to stop you from making a dumb purchase?
And here I thought that the box of the game already gave the genre, quick youtube or google search would also show it without a need of hateful review to tell you that you will won't like a game on a genre you hate.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

John2290 said:
VGPolyglot said:

There's a huge difference between a 6th-grade teacher and a game reviewer, a teacher generally has to follow an established set of guidelines that were determined by the educational board of that jurisdiction, whereas there is no standardized system for how a game has to be reviewed. Also, if it's entirely based on the merit of completing the objective, should a game that is released and is intentionally poor receive a high score because it completed its objective of being a poor game?

What is your favourite genre? Would you prefer people who know nothing of this genre to review it or someone experienced? Of course both is an option but lets just take it at a binary choice here, yay or nay for someone who has no experience in your genre of choice?

I actually like seeing videos of people shitting on things that I enjoy, for example Spoony's review of Final Fantasy X or videos of people saying that death metal is horrible.



John2290 said:
VGPolyglot said:

I actually like seeing videos of people shitting on things that I enjoy, for example Spoony's review of Final Fantasy X or videos of people saying that death metal is horrible.

If you truly do enjoy that style of "journalism" or opinion then you're adding to the problem that is games journalism today. I feel like you play devils advocate to the point of just being a dick. 

I guess I am a bit masochistic, it's probably also why I always call myself worthless and intentionally cause pain and uncomfortability to myself.



CGI-Quality said:
Zkuq said:

Ah, I see.

Reading that back, sounds a little snarky. My apologies. :)

I'm not too sensitive to that kind of stuff so no need to apologize. :) That is: no problem!

Last edited by Zkuq - on 27 May 2018