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Forums - Sales Discussion - PS4 Won February NPD (PS4: 363K, XBO: 310K, NSW: 279K)

quickrick on 19 March 2018
kirby007 said:
quickrick said:

believe me if ps4 only did 280k everyone would be saying the same thing, but because i'm saying it, it's a dense conclusion, just ignore me :). 

You dont look at any external factors do you?

its not a conclusion, hence why i said it looks like its slowing down, after xbox/ps4 poor October last year many people thought they were losing momentum including myself, so your making a big deal over nothing. I even thought ps4 would lose momentum this year, why i had the prediction at 300k.   



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Mr.GameCrazy on 19 March 2018
quickrick said:
zorg1000 said:

Yes, feel free to discuss sales all you want, the problem is thats not what you do.

You go out of your way to talk down about Nintendo/Switch and the only time you mention the others is if its used to put down Nintendo/Switch.

if you mean talking down is bring up valid points then fine, but i have stopped lately, because it's best to wait for npd day and see your predictions is right , anyway all i said is this month it looks like switch momentum is slowing, next month it can change, but this month it's differently not in line with ps4 average monthly sales like other months.  

I fail to see how the Switch's monentum is slowing down. Could you elaborate on that?



quickrick on 19 March 2018
Mr.GameCrazy said:
quickrick said:

if you mean talking down is bring up valid points then fine, but i have stopped lately, because it's best to wait for npd day and see your predictions is right , anyway all i said is this month it looks like switch momentum is slowing, next month it can change, but this month it's differently not in line with ps4 average monthly sales like other months.  

I fail to see how the Switch's monentum is slowing down. Could you elaborate on that?

it's just a sign. switch has been on par with ps4 average monthly sales, this is the first time switch is much lower then ps4 average February. 



kirby007 on 19 March 2018

So to recap:
Both the xbox and ps4 having a monsterhit doesnt effect sales
Both or atleast one of those consoles having big deals doesnt effect sales
Not having a major release does boost sales ( cuz its Apple )
Having a higher amount sold on a weekly base is a flop

Did i get everything?



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AngryLittleAlchemist on 19 March 2018
jason1637 said:

The Wii U started off really well and ended up flopping. By Wii U 2.0 I don't mean it's gonna sell 13m but that it's gonna less close to that if Nintendo doesn't react quick.  The PS4 and Xbox One both had huge boost this month compared to the last while switch was basically flat MoM. Also Switch sales have been slowing down WW. If Nintendo doesn't do a bundle or price cut I can't see the Switch becoming irrelevant this year.

Also I don't think Switch will sell 70m like 3DS. If Nintendo doesn't react to the loss in momentum I see 16-25m but if they do react I think it will do 60m.



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Kai_Mao on 19 March 2018

So we're concluding that the Switch is losing momentum after one month? Didn't we discuss this back in November and all of a sudden December came, in which the Switch would go on to do really, really well despite no holiday sales?



JRPGfan on 19 March 2018
Train wreck said:
350 posts and we don't even have concrete numbers from NPD, is that some kind of record?

There in the thread title.

(PS4: 363K, XBO: 310K, NSW: 279K)



nemo37 on 19 March 2018
quickrick said:
nemo37 said:
Despite coming in last place for the month (which for me was not unexpected due to MH for PS4 which I believed would push current owners to potentially upgrade to PS4 Pro and the discounts on Xbox One both of which would those platforms to increase their unit sales), Switch sales are quite good for its first February (it done comparatively well to other platforms in their first February).

The biggest surprise for me was PS4 outperforming Xbox One. I was expecting Xbox One to come in first for this month because of the discounts. My hunch here is that while the PS4 Slim remains the top selling model for the PS4 platform, MHW may have spurred a greater number of current owners to purchase a PS4 Pro (this hunch is based on increased rankings. I wish that we could get a breakdown of PS4 Slim, PS4 Pro, Xbox One S, and Xbox One X to see if the data confirms or disavows my hunch.

More specifically with regards to Xbox One, considering the US is a strong market for this system and it was positioned well for tax returns month, I wonder if the tracking period potentially did not fully cover the discount period. If this turns out to be wrong then I guess the discount period was simple not long enough to allow Xbox to take the month.

Does anyone know what the tracking period was for February NPD? Also what is the tracking period for March (with regards to March, I am currently pegging the Switch to come out on top due to it toping charts on Amazon and Best Buy and improving its position at GameStop but if part of the March tracking period falls during the Xbox One's discount period then Xbox would be in a very strong position)?

ps4 is ahead  of switchat best buy and gamestop, i check almost every 2 days.

I have been looking at the Best Buy charts daily and Switch has been consistently on top since the first week of March. In fact, as of the time of this comment the Neon Switch SKU is at the top of the charts on Best Buy. Beyond that, with regards to the second SKUs for all consoles (by which I mean the second highest selling SKUs for each platform), the Switch Grey is the best selling second SKU for the consoles. 

As you can tell from my comment I said my prediction is based on the system " toping charts on Amazon and Best Buy and improving its position at GameStop". On Best Buy and Amazon the system has been topping charts, on GameStop it is not at the top of the charts (as both you and I correctly stated) but its position has improved. This means two major retailers have Switch in front with regards to chart position (a reverse of February where two out of the three, Best Buy and GameStop, had PS4 in front and where PS4 improved its chart positioning on Amazon). 

Looking at Gamestop more closely of the top selling new consoles, the top selling SKU is a PS4 Pro pre-order that will not be released until April. The second SKU is a glacier white PS4 Pro which is currently being sold exclusively at GameStop. The third SKU is a Monster Hunter GameStop exclusive PS4 Pro SKU that has been out of stock since February so its positioning is retrospective. There is also one Xbox One S Sea of Thieves SKU that is available for pre-order that The Switch SKUs and bundles that trailed both the PS4 Pro and Slim and many of the Xbox One S bundles in late-January and February have now overcome the Slim and the currently available Xbox One S SKUs. Considering that NPD does not count pre-orders towards a month's platform sales, I think Switch is in a good position (as of right now anyways) to take March. Two caveats are the NPD tracking period potentially favouring Xbox One and of course there is still one week of March left so things can change.

While I expect March to go to Switch (barring those caveats I mentioned being a factor), I am expecting PS4 to come out on top in April based on how strong pre-orders for the God of War PS4 Pro have been (I think this will be another game that will not only bring more players into the eco-system through the PS4 Slim but also push more existing owners to upgrade to Pro for that game). I am still undecided about my predictions regarding Xbox One and Switch in April with regards to which one will come in second and third place in April.

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quickrick on 19 March 2018
nemo37 said:
quickrick said:

ps4 is ahead  of switchat best buy and gamestop, i check almost every 2 days.

I have been looking at the Best Buy charts daily and Switch has been consistently on top since the first week of March. In fact, as of the time of this comment the Neon Switch SKU is at the top of the charts on Best Buy. Beyond that, with regards to the second SKUs for all consoles (by which I mean the second highest selling SKUs for each platform), the Switch Grey is the best selling second SKU for the consoles. 

As you can tell from my comment I said my prediction is based on the system " toping charts on Amazon and Best Buy and improving its position at GameStop". On Best Buy and Amazon the system has been topping charts, on GameStop it is not at the top of the charts (as both you and I correctly stated) but its position has improved. This means two major retailers have Switch in front with regards to chart position (a reverse of February where two out of the three, Best Buy and GameStop, had PS4 in front and where PS4 improved its chart positioning on Amazon). 

Looking at Gamestop more closely of the top selling new consoles, the top selling SKU is a PS4 Pro pre-order that will not be released until April. The second SKU is a glacier white PS4 Pro which is currently on sale. The third SKU is a Monster Hunter GameStop exclusive PS4 Pro SKU that has been out of stock since February so its positioning is retrospective. There is also one Xbox One S Sea of Thieves SKU that is available for pre-order that The Switch SKUs and bundles that trailed both the PS4 Pro and Slim and many of the Xbox One S bundles in late-January and February have now overcome the Slim and the currently available Xbox One S SKUs. Considering that NPD does not count pre-orders towards a month's platform sales, I think Switch is in a good position (as of right now anyways) to take March. Two caveats are the NPD tracking period potentially favouring Xbox One and of course there is still one week of March left so things can change.

While I expect March to go to Switch (barring those caveats I mentioned being a factor), I am expecting PS4 to come out on top in April based on how strong pre-orders for the God of War PS4 Pro have been (I think this will be another game that will not only bring more players into the eco-system through the PS4 Slim but also push more existing owners to upgrade to Pro for that game). I am still undecided about my predictions regarding Xbox One and Switch in April with regards to which one will come in second and third place in April.

umm i check daily as well, as of now mario is on top followed by ps4, then xbox then switch it's been like that the whole month.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/searchpage.jsp?cp=1&searchType=search&_dyncharset=UTF-8&ks=960&sc=Global&list=y&usc=All%20Categories&type=page&id=pcat17071&iht=n&seeAll=&browsedCategory=pcmcat748302046757&st=pcmcat748302046757_categoryid%24abcat0700000&qp=&sp=-bestsellingsort%20skuidsaas



flashfire926 on 19 March 2018
quickrick said:
bubblegamer said:

Agreed, these numbers put things in perspective. Looks like the switch will outsell the X1 by a bit.

xbox was 499$, i don't think switch will out sell xbox in the US.

I am willing to bet against that. Switch lifetime sales will beat out the Xbox One in the United States.



Bet with Intrinsic:

The Switch will outsell 3DS (based on VGchartz numbers), according to me, while Intrinsic thinks the opposite will hold true. One month avatar control for the loser's avatar.