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Nymeria said:
DonFerrari said: 

I go back to Brazil because USA is a continental size country with 300M population (akin to Brazil), while Japan is completely different. And both are failing at doing drug control.

Sure someone should pick its battle, but when USA is unable to fight against any and all illegal drugs and people abuse even on legal ones, why do you think they would be totally capable of controlling guns if they were made illegal? Because I'm not a gun lover, so if no one would be able to have a gun I would have no issue... but as long as there is a good probability that a criminal is capable of getting a gun I'm not all right with any government saying I can't have one.

That's your criteria then. I disagree because I think history, culture, and economics play greater roles in shaping a society.  Canada is far closer to England culturally due to history and language than it is to Russia culturally despite climate, geographic size, and population density those two countries have.

I never said totally capable. I stated it would still have issues.  If you can buy rifles, shotguns, and pistols, just not military grade weapons and that means reduce gun deaths and mass shooting deaths by it is worth it to try.   I don't look at problems with a defeatist attitude that we cannot do address them, such a mindset means why bother attempting anything if failure is a possibility.  

Sure USA and Canada are more similar to UK from these points than to Brazil and Russia. Still USA is heavily gun lovers while UK is almost gun free, so for parallels on that I don't see much value.

With 2 pistols it's quite easy and fast to kill 15 people in a single class room if the person doesn't totally suck at shooting, so I don't see how much better you would have the situation by banning assault rifles.

the-pi-guy said:
DonFerrari said:

1 - Government involvement in the market as a whole help a lot in increasing the costs. And in Brazil compared to our GDP the private healthcare is quite expensive, 1h appointment on a regular doctor cost about 1/2 a minimum month wage, health plan for a 30y old citizen around 1/3 of the minimum month wage while a senior plan about 4 times a minimum month wage... does that sound cheap to you? Or putting in USA money, single consult about 960USD healthcare plan to young people 8k/year and for seniors 100k/year. Is that cheap for you in comparison?

2 - Brazil freedom is very low, and go there and convince your fellow citizen on abolishing 2nd amendment... while you do that look that in Brazil we have guns forbidden and our most peaceful capital (big city) is more violent than your most violent one.

The worse weapon government can develop like nuclear and bioweapon isn't much advisable to use against its own citizen since it could destroy its own country, so repression could be by using tank, assault rifle and drones... besides the first, the other 2 citizen can have access to.

1-  Why are you bringing up private healthcare?  

US pays twice as much as Brazil does, compared to GDP.  

2- 

There's also things like unmanned drones, and plenty of other things.  The military spends $12 million on a drone, so no those aren't things citizens can get easily. 

1- The other person brought that USA private healthcare is to much expensive against Brazil that is cheap.

US may pay twice as much. But that can be put as USA having more access to it. Can you say that a single appointment in USA cost half your minimum monthly wage (960USD), and that the healthcare plan cost 1/3 of minimum wage (8k) for young adults and 4 times the minimum wage (100k) for seniors?

Because that would put it sizable expensiveness compared to Brazil.

2- I didn't say it is easy, and every single technology starts expensive and them get to mass market low prices. Still citizen can make armed drones.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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DonFerrari said:

1- The other person brought that USA private healthcare is to much expensive against Brazil that is cheap.

US may pay twice as much. But that can be put as USA having more access to it. Can you say that a single appointment in USA cost half your minimum monthly wage (960USD), and that the healthcare plan cost 1/3 of minimum wage (8k) for young adults and 4 times the minimum wage (100k) for seniors?

Because that would put it sizable expensiveness compared to Brazil.

2- I didn't say it is easy, and every single technology starts expensive and them get to mass market low prices. Still citizen can make armed drones.

1-

You mentioned a 1 hour appointment, I don't even know how one could get an appointment that long.  

If it was an ER visit, it'll cost way more than that.  A routine physical, which might last 30 minutes, can easily cost $300.

Besides, there is no free healthcare in the US.  Some people die because they can't afford healthcare.

2-

No they can't.  There is absolutely nothing that citizens can do about the government if the government wanted to take over.  



I don't even know where to start :P



the-pi-guy said:
DonFerrari said:

1- The other person brought that USA private healthcare is to much expensive against Brazil that is cheap.

US may pay twice as much. But that can be put as USA having more access to it. Can you say that a single appointment in USA cost half your minimum monthly wage (960USD), and that the healthcare plan cost 1/3 of minimum wage (8k) for young adults and 4 times the minimum wage (100k) for seniors?

Because that would put it sizable expensiveness compared to Brazil.

2- I didn't say it is easy, and every single technology starts expensive and them get to mass market low prices. Still citizen can make armed drones.

1-

You mentioned a 1 hour appointment, I don't even know how one could get an appointment that long.  

If it was an ER visit, it'll cost way more than that.  A routine physical, which might last 30 minutes, can easily cost $300.

Besides, there is no free healthcare in the US.  Some people die because they can't afford healthcare.

2-

No they can't.  There is absolutely nothing that citizens can do about the government if the government wanted to take over.  

1 - Depends on the type of doctor... my child do 1h with the pediatric, but yes regular visit in Brazil is 30 min, on health plan is 15 min.

And it isn't about "easily cost", what I put was a basic cost for a simple consult, depending on the speciality it will be much more costier.

There isn't free healthcare anywhere in the world, there is tax payed healthcare though.

2 - If you think so, ok.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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Epic was right all along... 

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Epic was right all along... 

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Epic was right all along... 

Even though some might think differently, I think our Prime Minister (Mariano Rajoy Brey - Spain) is a complete ignoramus that needs to get booted first thing first chance we get.

I am still baffled the People's Party exists as a viable entity. Seriously though, Americans don't know how lucky they are with Donald Trump rather than this regressive flake...



Epic was right all along... 

DonFerrari said:

1 - Depends on the type of doctor... my child do 1h with the pediatric, but yes regular visit in Brazil is 30 min, on health plan is 15 min.

And it isn't about "easily cost", what I put was a basic cost for a simple consult, depending on the speciality it will be much more costier.

There isn't free healthcare anywhere in the world, there is tax payed healthcare though.

2 - If you think so, ok.

1- My sister has a masters in healthcare administration.  

In the US, healthcare is expensive for a lot of reasons.  One reason is that healthcare administration is expensive, and it has to do with overhead being required to work with all these different insurance companies.  In some countries like the UK, they don't need as much overhead.  

There are tons of benefits like that, that make public healthcare much cheaper.  Those are facts.  



the-pi-guy said:
DonFerrari said:

1 - Depends on the type of doctor... my child do 1h with the pediatric, but yes regular visit in Brazil is 30 min, on health plan is 15 min.

And it isn't about "easily cost", what I put was a basic cost for a simple consult, depending on the speciality it will be much more costier.

There isn't free healthcare anywhere in the world, there is tax payed healthcare though.

2 - If you think so, ok.

1- My sister has a masters in healthcare administration.  

In the US, healthcare is expensive for a lot of reasons.  One reason is that healthcare administration is expensive, and it has to do with overhead being required to work with all these different insurance companies.  In some countries like the UK, they don't need as much overhead.  

There are tons of benefits like that, that make public healthcare much cheaper.  Those are facts.  

You are looking at it just as a government or bureaucratic...

If one of the main reasons for the cost is the overhead and for the overhead is the excessive regulation... the best way to correct it is not put the ones that make excessive regulation as responsible for the system, but to just stop regulating every single thing.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."