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RAZurrection on 10 April 2008
Jandre002 said:
RAZurrection said:
If it's not coming on launch day it's pointless, most of GTAIV's sales will be week 1. I guess Sony isn't too confident they'll grab a large share of GTAIV sales without bundles.

1)And why exactly would Sony care? GTAIV will sell millions, they care about hardware sales. Its certain they will sell a higher percentage of GTAIV in comparison to their global install base. (Will have higher attach rate than 360.)

2)The only people who care about that crap are fanboys. Sony gets higher attach rate, Sony currently has more momentum in every region and is still at a higher price. Hmmm...if your going to make a game starting now that will release in a year or two, why the hell would you make it 360 exclusive anymore? Thats the point of the console wars. Game quality and community. It wont sell more software of course, but the PS3 sure as hell is going to smash the 360 in hardware increase.

3) It will be close in the US, but it will be a landslide victory in Europe.


 1) And 360 will sell more hardware and overall more copies of GTAIV, the difference between them will be greater than the PS3 versions total sales.

 2) Because PS3 software doesn't sell for crap, they've had to bundle almost every single game to hit 1 million sales

Motorstorm, Resistance: Fall of Man, Uncharted: Drakes Fortune, Pro Evolution Soccer 2008, Devil May Cry 4

 Bundle, bundle, bundle, bundle, bundle. PS3 games only sell if you give them away for free. 

 3) So the 360 has a lead of 7 million in the US and sales will be 'close', but the PS3 only being 1 million behind in others it'll be a landslide? What waccy baccy you smokin'? 360 version's gonna outsell the PS3 version 2:1 before the first DLC hits.

 

GTA's seen as an Xbox franchise now kid. 



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PooperScooper on 10 April 2008
RAZurrection said:
Jandre002 said:
RAZurrection said:
If it's not coming on launch day it's pointless, most of GTAIV's sales will be week 1. I guess Sony isn't too confident they'll grab a large share of GTAIV sales without bundles.

1)And why exactly would Sony care? GTAIV will sell millions, they care about hardware sales. Its certain they will sell a higher percentage of GTAIV in comparison to their global install base. (Will have higher attach rate than 360.)

2)The only people who care about that crap are fanboys. Sony gets higher attach rate, Sony currently has more momentum in every region and is still at a higher price. Hmmm...if your going to make a game starting now that will release in a year or two, why the hell would you make it 360 exclusive anymore? Thats the point of the console wars. Game quality and community. It wont sell more software of course, but the PS3 sure as hell is going to smash the 360 in hardware increase.

3) It will be close in the US, but it will be a landslide victory in Europe.


 1) And 360 will sell more hardware and overall more copies of GTAIV, the difference between them will be greater than the PS3 versions total sales.

 2) Because PS3 software doesn't sell for crap, they've had to bundle almost every single game to hit 1 million sales

Motorstorm, Resistance: Fall of Man, Uncharted: Drakes Fortune, Pro Evolution Soccer 2008, Devil May Cry 4

 Bundle, bundle, bundle, bundle, bundle. PS3 games only sell if you give them away for free. 

 3) So the 360 has a lead of 7 million in the US and sales will be 'close', but the PS3 only being 1 million behind in others it'll be a landslide? What waccy baccy you smokin'? 360 version's gonna outsell the PS3 version 2:1 before the first DLC hits.

 

GTA's seen as an Xbox franchise now kid. 


You obviously dont do any research before you open your mouth... Kinda like when you said that Ps3 sales would drastically decrease because GT5p would not sell any HW and easter sales were too good... we all know how that 150k OTher week turned out dont we.



Torillian on 10 April 2008

*raises hand* Oh Pooper....ME ME....I know!!

He was wrong!! :)



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RAZurrection on 10 April 2008
PooperScooper said:
RAZurrection said:
Jandre002 said:
RAZurrection said:
If it's not coming on launch day it's pointless, most of GTAIV's sales will be week 1. I guess Sony isn't too confident they'll grab a large share of GTAIV sales without bundles.

1)And why exactly would Sony care? GTAIV will sell millions, they care about hardware sales. Its certain they will sell a higher percentage of GTAIV in comparison to their global install base. (Will have higher attach rate than 360.)

2)The only people who care about that crap are fanboys. Sony gets higher attach rate, Sony currently has more momentum in every region and is still at a higher price. Hmmm...if your going to make a game starting now that will release in a year or two, why the hell would you make it 360 exclusive anymore? Thats the point of the console wars. Game quality and community. It wont sell more software of course, but the PS3 sure as hell is going to smash the 360 in hardware increase.

3) It will be close in the US, but it will be a landslide victory in Europe.


1) And 360 will sell more hardware and overall more copies of GTAIV, the difference between them will be greater than the PS3 versions total sales.

2) Because PS3 software doesn't sell for crap, they've had to bundle almost every single game to hit 1 million sales

Motorstorm, Resistance: Fall of Man, Uncharted: Drakes Fortune, Pro Evolution Soccer 2008, Devil May Cry 4

Bundle, bundle, bundle, bundle, bundle. PS3 games only sell if you give them away for free.

3) So the 360 has a lead of 7 million in the US and sales will be 'close', but the PS3 only being 1 million behind in others it'll be a landslide? What waccy baccy you smokin'? 360 version's gonna outsell the PS3 version 2:1 before the first DLC hits.

 

GTA's seen as an Xbox franchise now kid.


You obviously dont do any research before you open your mouth... Kinda like when you said that Ps3 sales would drastically decrease because GT5p would not sell any HW and easter sales were too good... we all know how that 150k OTher week turned out dont we.


 I feel I was closer in my estimation than your prediction of 1 million PS3 sales.

 

Exactly what research do I need to do to know PS3 games don't sell? Sony even has to bundle MGS4 and Gran Turismo Prologue to get decent sales, face it Sony has to give their games away before they achieve respectible numbers. It's proabably really embaressing to see something so lame like Perfect Dark Zero topple almost every PS3 game in sales.

US sales are going to be a slaughterfest. Playstations just not important anymore. 



CrazzyMan on 10 April 2008

Yeah, that will be really interesting now. =))
GTA4 was going to sell better on PS3 in Europe, and now it will 150% sell better. =))

Well about USA, let`s look at DMC4.
DMC4 PS3 - 0.44 mln. - 41%.
DMC4 x360 - 0.63 mln. - 59%.
Total: 1,07 mln. - 100%.

SO, that`s probably is best case scenario in USA. But if PS3 bundle will come same day... =))



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2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far

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PooperScooper on 10 April 2008
RAZurrection said:

 I feel I was closer in my estimation than your prediction of 1 million PS3 sales.

 

Exactly what research do I need to do to know PS3 games don't sell? Sony even has to bundle MGS4 and Gran Turismo Prologue to get decent sales, face it Sony has to give their games away before they achieve respectible numbers. It's proabably really embaressing to see something so lame like Perfect Dark Zero topple almost every PS3 game in sales.

US sales are going to be a slaughterfest. Playstations just not important anymore. 


I will eat my own feces and put it on youtube if you can show me where I said I thought the Ps3 sales would reach a million.

And you do know the bundles make up small percent of the actual sales dont you... Out of the million sales GT5p has a maximum of 200k could be bundles. I'd say its more like a couple of tens of thousands.

And please show me the Uncharted bundle youre talking about.

You also know that if they werent bundled people who did buy them would probablly just buy the system and the game seperate anyways.



RAZurrection on 10 April 2008
PooperScooper said:
RAZurrection said:

I feel I was closer in my estimation than your prediction of 1 million PS3 sales.

 

Exactly what research do I need to do to know PS3 games don't sell? Sony even has to bundle MGS4 and Gran Turismo Prologue to get decent sales, face it Sony has to give their games away before they achieve respectible numbers. It's proabably really embaressing to see something so lame like Perfect Dark Zero topple almost every PS3 game in sales.

US sales are going to be a slaughterfest. Playstations just not important anymore.


I will eat my own feces and put it on youtube if you can show me where I said I thought the Ps3 sales would reach a million.

And you do know the bundles make up small percent of the actual sales dont you... Out of the million sales GT5p has a maximum of 200k could be bundles. I'd say its more like a couple of tens of thousands.

And please show me the Uncharted bundle youre talking about.

You also know that if they werent bundled people who did buy them would probablly just buy the system and the game seperate anyways.


 Judging from you're breath, I thought you ate them already.

 

Here it is 

http://www.psu.com/Rumor--Sony-to-release-UnchartedRatchet-Bundle-in-EU-News--a1711-p0.php

Sony's had to practically pack in every first party game - the ones they claim so many people buy the system for - for free, the PS3 just doesn't move games...Sony knows this, thats why they're bundling anything remotely interesting, GT5P, GTA, MGS...Microsoft really doesn't have these problems that's why GTA4 is going to wipe the floor with the PS3 version on a global scale.

 

I imagine like DMC4, Assassins Creed and CoD4 the 'others' sales difference will be within a few hundred thousand, the US sales will be in the millions. 



DOATS1 on 10 April 2008

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/retail-confirms-playstation-3-gta-iv-bundle

coolio




Skeeuk on 10 April 2008

lol

this exclusivity is getting outta hand

  1. console exclusive
  2. timed exclusive
  3. holiday exclusive
  4. and now bundle exclusive


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bbsin on 11 April 2008
RAZurrection said:
PooperScooper said:
RAZurrection said:
Jandre002 said:
RAZurrection said:
If it's not coming on launch day it's pointless, most of GTAIV's sales will be week 1. I guess Sony isn't too confident they'll grab a large share of GTAIV sales without bundles.

1)And why exactly would Sony care? GTAIV will sell millions, they care about hardware sales. Its certain they will sell a higher percentage of GTAIV in comparison to their global install base. (Will have higher attach rate than 360.)

2)The only people who care about that crap are fanboys. Sony gets higher attach rate, Sony currently has more momentum in every region and is still at a higher price. Hmmm...if your going to make a game starting now that will release in a year or two, why the hell would you make it 360 exclusive anymore? Thats the point of the console wars. Game quality and community. It wont sell more software of course, but the PS3 sure as hell is going to smash the 360 in hardware increase.

3) It will be close in the US, but it will be a landslide victory in Europe.


1) And 360 will sell more hardware and overall more copies of GTAIV, the difference between them will be greater than the PS3 versions total sales.

2) Because PS3 software doesn't sell for crap, they've had to bundle almost every single game to hit 1 million sales

Motorstorm, Resistance: Fall of Man, Uncharted: Drakes Fortune, Pro Evolution Soccer 2008, Devil May Cry 4

Bundle, bundle, bundle, bundle, bundle. PS3 games only sell if you give them away for free.

3) So the 360 has a lead of 7 million in the US and sales will be 'close', but the PS3 only being 1 million behind in others it'll be a landslide? What waccy baccy you smokin'? 360 version's gonna outsell the PS3 version 2:1 before the first DLC hits.

 

GTA's seen as an Xbox franchise now kid.


You obviously dont do any research before you open your mouth... Kinda like when you said that Ps3 sales would drastically decrease because GT5p would not sell any HW and easter sales were too good... we all know how that 150k OTher week turned out dont we.


I feel I was closer in my estimation than your prediction of 1 million PS3 sales.

 

Exactly what research do I need to do to know PS3 games don't sell? Sony even has to bundle MGS4 and Gran Turismo Prologue to get decent sales, face it Sony has to give their games away before they achieve respectible numbers. It's proabably really embaressing to see something so lame like Perfect Dark Zero topple almost every PS3 game in sales.

US sales are going to be a slaughterfest. Playstations just not important anymore.


What does that say about the 360? Microsoft got beat in every territory last week, even in the U.S. But hey, you still got those supply "issues" excuse eh? oh wait, it's already April. . And also, your attempt at saying "PS3 games don't sell" is seriously flawed. Sure the PS3 software sales can't touch the 360's in the U.S but to say that no PS3 game can sell without a bundle is plain ignorance. But then again, I don't expect anything less from a fantard.



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