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Sequel trilogy is wrecking the prequels

The Force Awakens > Phantom Menace

The Last Jedi > Attack of the Clones

Even with inflation adjusted.

Episode IX will demolish Revenge of the Sith too, Last Jedi already beat it. 

OT is the king of kings, but that's to be expected, nothing's topping the OT. Those are the best Star Wars movies and you're never topping that. 

You will never have a twist as good as Darth Vader being Luke's father, you will never have a soundtrack/score that good, the OT's "B-characters" like Yoda, the Emperor, Boba Fett, Chewie, Lando, are better than most movies' "A-team", you will never have a villain like Darth Vader, you'll never have a character as good as Han Solo. 

Disney is just going to have to be content with the most popular trilogy in Hollywood even if it doesn't match the originals. 

2.9 billion for the 2 Avengers films is pretty much the highest non-Star Wars comparable, TFA + TLJ are at 3.3 billion. 

Last edited by Soundwave - on 12 January 2018

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edit: deleted as I didnt see it was answered in posts above

Last edited by Vincoletto - on 12 January 2018

A_C_E said:
Conina said:

So you don't trust the $200M, but you trust the $220M, $250M and $275M? Seems a bit... selective.

It's funny because I never once mentioned wikipedia but he's going off on a tangent about wikipedia numbers. If someone doesn't have an argument, they shouldn't argue. I even gave him the $300M figure he wanted to attach to TLJ, but oh well.

Nice try. I gave you a chance to name a source on your $200M figure. You couldn't. Why? Because you, more than likely,  just peeked at Wikipedia and took it as fact. Or saw the same article someone used to justify editing Wikipedia. Same reason you conceded so quickly. I'm not the one who lost that "tangent." 



thismeintiel said:

Nice try. I gave you a chance to name a source on your $200M figure. You couldn't. Why? Because you, more than likely,  just peeked at Wikipedia and took it as fact. Or saw the same article someone used to justify editing Wikipedia. Same reason you conceded so quickly. I'm not the one who lost that "tangent." 

Did you miss my previous response to you? Try to keep up bud. You just used the term, "more than likely" meaning your only tool at practice is assumption. As I have already stated I didn't have a source, it was a rough estimate to use as a base figure for matter of comparison to the outcome/performance of TLJ. THAT is the reason why I conceded so quickly, a placeholder figure that could be anywhere from $200-$300 million.

You're not the one who lost that tangent? haha ok, you definitely won that tangent. A tangent, btw, is a different line of thought, meaning you strayed from my original point which had nothing to do with wikipedia. Congrats on the win, you very much earned it!



A_C_E said:
thismeintiel said:

Nice try. I gave you a chance to name a source on your $200M figure. You couldn't. Why? Because you, more than likely,  just peeked at Wikipedia and took it as fact. Or saw the same article someone used to justify editing Wikipedia. Same reason you conceded so quickly. I'm not the one who lost that "tangent." 

Did you miss my previous response to you? Try to keep up bud. You just used the term, "more than likely" meaning your only tool at practice is assumption. As I have already stated I didn't have a source, it was a rough estimate to use as a base figure for matter of comparison to the outcome/performance of TLJ. THAT is the reason why I conceded so quickly, a placeholder figure that could be anywhere from $200-$300 million.

You're not the one who lost that tangent? haha ok, you definitely won that tangent. A tangent, btw, is a different line of thought, meaning you strayed from my original point which had nothing to do with wikipedia. Congrats on the win, you very much earned it!

So you pulled that number out of thin air, with absolutely nothing to go on? And somehow landed on the exact number from Wikipedia? Right...

You may want to learn how to apply tangent correctly. When you are talking about a movie's budget, and someone comes in and continues to talk about a movie's budget, that's not a tangent. 

Last edited by thismeintiel - on 12 January 2018

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Soundwave said:

Sequel trilogy is wrecking the prequels

The Force Awakens > Phantom Menace

The Last Jedi > Attack of the Clones

Even with inflation adjusted.

Episode IX will demolish Revenge of the Sith too, Last Jedi already beat it. 

OT is the king of kings, but that's to be expected, nothing's topping the OT. Those are the best Star Wars movies and you're never topping that. 

You will never have a twist as good as Darth Vader being Luke's father, you will never have a soundtrack/score that good, the OT's "B-characters" like Yoda, the Emperor, Boba Fett, Chewie, Lando, are better than most movies' "A-team", you will never have a villain like Darth Vader, you'll never have a character as good as Han Solo. 

Disney is just going to have to be content with the most popular trilogy in Hollywood even if it doesn't match the originals. 

2.9 billion for the 2 Avengers films is pretty much the highest non-Star Wars comparable, TFA + TLJ are at 3.3 billion. 

I think Episode 9 will be way down, but it's just my opinion and I have no facts to back it up.



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Soundwave said:

Sequel trilogy is wrecking the prequels

The Force Awakens > Phantom Menace

The Last Jedi > Attack of the Clones

Even with inflation adjusted.

Episode IX will demolish Revenge of the Sith too, Last Jedi already beat it. 

OT is the king of kings, but that's to be expected, nothing's topping the OT. Those are the best Star Wars movies and you're never topping that. 

You will never have a twist as good as Darth Vader being Luke's father, you will never have a soundtrack/score that good, the OT's "B-characters" like Yoda, the Emperor, Boba Fett, Chewie, Lando, are better than most movies' "A-team", you will never have a villain like Darth Vader, you'll never have a character as good as Han Solo. 

Disney is just going to have to be content with the most popular trilogy in Hollywood even if it doesn't match the originals. 

2.9 billion for the 2 Avengers films is pretty much the highest non-Star Wars comparable, TFA + TLJ are at 3.3 billion. 

The new trilogy had Han Solo and they had Luke. Both of which are insanely better actors than they were back then.

What did Disney do with them? They ruined their characters and killed them off for next generation.



irstupid said:
Soundwave said:

Sequel trilogy is wrecking the prequels

The Force Awakens > Phantom Menace

The Last Jedi > Attack of the Clones

Even with inflation adjusted.

Episode IX will demolish Revenge of the Sith too, Last Jedi already beat it. 

OT is the king of kings, but that's to be expected, nothing's topping the OT. Those are the best Star Wars movies and you're never topping that. 

You will never have a twist as good as Darth Vader being Luke's father, you will never have a soundtrack/score that good, the OT's "B-characters" like Yoda, the Emperor, Boba Fett, Chewie, Lando, are better than most movies' "A-team", you will never have a villain like Darth Vader, you'll never have a character as good as Han Solo. 

Disney is just going to have to be content with the most popular trilogy in Hollywood even if it doesn't match the originals. 

2.9 billion for the 2 Avengers films is pretty much the highest non-Star Wars comparable, TFA + TLJ are at 3.3 billion. 

The new trilogy had Han Solo and they had Luke. Both of which are insanely better actors than they were back then.

What did Disney do with them? They ruined their characters and killed them off for next generation.

I think han solo was treated with a lot of respect on TFA. It was magical to see him again. Ford was amazing.  I dont have the source but I remember reading somewhere that Ford demanded Solo to be killed. Makes sense since he always craped on SW. Also it woudnt make sense to not pass the ball for future generations. Solo, Luke and Leia need to die.

But in a respectful way not how they did with Luke.



Vincoletto said:
irstupid said:

The new trilogy had Han Solo and they had Luke. Both of which are insanely better actors than they were back then.

What did Disney do with them? They ruined their characters and killed them off for next generation.

I think han solo was treated with a lot of respect on TFA. It was magical to see him again. Ford was amazing.  I dont have the source but I remember reading somewhere that Ford demanded Solo to be killed. Makes sense since he always craped on SW. Also it woudnt make sense to not pass the ball for future generations. Solo, Luke and Leia need to die.

But in a respectful way not how they did with Luke.

My trouble with Solo was half of his story. They basically just had him be A New Hope Solo again. He's off doing complete smuggling stuff again with only Chewie. It's like they took all of his character building he did throught he original trilogy and just tossed it away.

Everything Solo once he leaves to go to the death star planet is gold. Everything before that was regression trash, imo.



thismeintiel said:
A_C_E said:

Did you miss my previous response to you? Try to keep up bud. You just used the term, "more than likely" meaning your only tool at practice is assumption. As I have already stated I didn't have a source, it was a rough estimate to use as a base figure for matter of comparison to the outcome/performance of TLJ. THAT is the reason why I conceded so quickly, a placeholder figure that could be anywhere from $200-$300 million.

You're not the one who lost that tangent? haha ok, you definitely won that tangent. A tangent, btw, is a different line of thought, meaning you strayed from my original point which had nothing to do with wikipedia. Congrats on the win, you very much earned it!

So you pulled that number out of thin air, with absolutely nothing to go on? And somehow landed on the exact number from Wikipedia? Right...

You may want to learn how to apply tangent correctly. When you are talking about a movie's budget, and someone comes in and continues to talk about a movie's budget, that's not a tangent. 

Correlation does not equal causation. Not my problem that you found a number on wikipedia that correlates with what I used as a base figure.

I never said you went on a tangent about budget, again you are putting words in my mouth, how many times are you going to do this, lol? I said you were going off on a tangent about wikipedia.