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Doesn't really matter that much to me. I have had enough good to great games to keep me busy, I am actually a couple of games behind and that is without counting my recent Gamecube purchases, since November. I have less time than most people so this might be an issue for folks with a lot of gaming time and not me.



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Griffin said:
The system will continue to beat the others in sales for atleast the next year. But from the games we have seen so far the wii will have less games over 80 then the GC. The wii has 19, the GC has 127, the PS3 has 48, the PS2 had 317 over 80%. The wii will stand out in History but it will be listed as one of the systems with the fewest decent games to play. It will never reach the legendary status of any of the Playstation systems for games.

The fewest GREATEST games to play you mean?



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*~Onna76~* said:
Someone who agrees with me! Last time someone called me an idiot when I said I found the games on the Gamecube of more quality than on the WII. He thought I meant quantity I've been supporting the WII from the beginning with ups and downs and now I'm at the level of down again. Down, because I'm, like you, getting tired of the WII getting a lot of games, but like over 90% of them are crap and cheap looking. Question is how long are gamers going to take it if this partern keeps on continueing, I won't for long. Spending on WII games will reduce fast then from out of my pocket.

The problem is as we see it with sales in Japan... no matter if a family / party game is getting low scores, it can sell a lot... Deca Sporta as an example not to imagine the disaster called Carnival Games, which sold over a million worldwide! Who's buying that stuff anyway?!

As long as people keep on buying that junk, it will continue to be produced and so the WII will also continue to sell.

What games did the Gamecube have at this point in its life that the Wii doesn't? Nintendo has given sequels to their biggest games on the Wii signifficantly faster than they ever released them on the Gamecube. No, I should say faster than they ever have on any platform. Have you ever seen a Nintendo system that had Metroid, Zelda, Mario, Mario Kart, and Smash Bros. all out within 2 years of launch? No, you haven't... because there has never been one.

On the other hand, the PS2 in its first year had Grand Theft Auto, Final Fantasy, and Gran Turismo all within 1 year of its release. The PS3, now a year and a half old, has none of these yet. As far as crap, the PS2 had more crap than any console in history, and it's no surprise the Wii would have it as well.  And as far as the PS3's supposedly great game library, over 75% of the games with an 80% or higher average on GR are FPS and Sports games.  Yay diversity?

Citing reviews as a sign of quality is just as ridiculous. Reviewers dislike party games regardless of quality of the game istelf. Wii Sports has a 76% average on gamerankings, but history is going to view it as the generationally defining game. Not Bioshock or even Super Mario Galaxy. We have an issue with our current review system where reviewers don't know how to review games for audiences outside their own.



kingofwale said:
 

sorry to tell you this, Wii is going the way of DS.. you get your odd good games, but amongst them are MILLIONS upon MILLIONS of trash.


Really? Since you say it's "going the way of DS" does that mean you think the Wii is going the ways of the DS in market share, maybe around 60% of the console market in 3 years? You state that "you get your odd good games" for the DS, what's so odd about the games? You then go on to say "amongst them are MILLIONS upon MILLIONS of trash." Could you show me where to find that list of MILLIONS upon MILLIONS of games for the DS? Between all releases worldwide, including different language releases, I'm only aware of about 2,200 titles. Or were you just pulling random stuff out of some place where the sun don't shine?



I don't know about you, but I only play about a game a month anyway so 31 playable games is more than enough for me, especially with DS and PC to fill it out.



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Hi Onna, haven't seen you around for ages - maybe I'm just up at the wrong time of night :)

@naznatips: Agree completely.

Reviewers are primarily "old-school", and are not really equipped to review Wii "casual" games. I'm thinking more and more that games need TWO completely separate scores - a "hardcode" score & "casual" score.

WiiSports: HS: 6/10, CS: 10/10
Halo: HS: 10/10, CS: 6/10
Prologue: HS: 8/10, CS: 8/10
(etc)

WiiPlay is a $10 title, that has sold 10m+ units worldwide. Its clever bundling really, but the game is definitely worth the $10 (IMO). There was never any way reviewers would ever give it a score beyond 7.

WiiPlay: HS: 3/10, CS: 8/10



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Wii code: 2263 4706 2910 1099

doesn't matter to the average wii buyer wii sports barely qualifies with a 76, but it's responsible for millions of the wii's sales and a healthy % of its current demand

when it starts to move upmarket and steal ps360 customers, then it will need more of those, but it'll get it then...it can continue to sell for a long time without hardcore support, and then at some point in a year or 2 it will get hardcore support because there will be somewhere from 10-20 games that most hardcore players will want on the wii so they will take the plunge

 

 



Bets:Missed by 420k I bet leo-j vg$500 that wii will sell 31 million by 7/31/08.  Sorry, I don't think he has enough vg$ to make it with all of u that wish you could. Hit, with room to spare I bet kingofwale a 1-week ban that wii Americas ltd sales>360 Americas ltd sales as of the numbers for week ending 7/05/08 (using vgchartz homepage #s)

Predictions:

Wii will sell 18-20mil by 12/31/07  CHECKWii will sell 45mil+ WW by 12/31/08Wii will surpass PS2 sales WW by 11/17/11 (5yr anniversary)Wii Fit will hit 12mil sales in 2009MKWii+SSBB+Wii Fit+SMG > 50 mil sales by 2010 > gta4+mgs+gt5+ff13+haze+lbp

how many people dissing carnival games have actually played it?

i rented it and played it for hours with a friend one weekend...it's not great, but it was fun for those hours of competition...if i had a 4-8 year old, i would buy it so i could play it with them

it's not like it's a ninjabread man



Bets:Missed by 420k I bet leo-j vg$500 that wii will sell 31 million by 7/31/08.  Sorry, I don't think he has enough vg$ to make it with all of u that wish you could. Hit, with room to spare I bet kingofwale a 1-week ban that wii Americas ltd sales>360 Americas ltd sales as of the numbers for week ending 7/05/08 (using vgchartz homepage #s)

Predictions:

Wii will sell 18-20mil by 12/31/07  CHECKWii will sell 45mil+ WW by 12/31/08Wii will surpass PS2 sales WW by 11/17/11 (5yr anniversary)Wii Fit will hit 12mil sales in 2009MKWii+SSBB+Wii Fit+SMG > 50 mil sales by 2010 > gta4+mgs+gt5+ff13+haze+lbp

I look at game reviewers the same way as I do movie reviewers. They represent a certain demographic. Some of my favorite movies were panned by critics. Some critically acclaimed movies put me to sleep or worse. Just because a movie wins the Academy Awards doesn't mean I'll like it, in fact most winning movies bore the hell out of me.

I gave up on movie reviews a long time ago. Game reviews are headed the same way for myself. They represent a narrow demographic and if you're not in it, their scores are mostly meaningless.



I wouldn't pay too much attention to Metacritic's ratings. They are missing a LOT of games.