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Multiple Arab nations have rejected any solution that doesn't involve Israel ceasing to exist. It's hard to imagine a solution when that's the case.

At some point there will be all out war again. Only this time both sides will have nukes.



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epicurean said:
Multiple Arab nations have rejected any solution that doesn't involve Israel ceasing to exist. It's hard to imagine a solution when that's the case.

At some point there will be all out war again. Only this time both sides will have nukes.

Well, Israel should cease to exist and be replaced with a multinational state. Maybe even a federation made up of three parts: Israel, Palestine and Jerusalem.



VGPolyglot said:
epicurean said:
Multiple Arab nations have rejected any solution that doesn't involve Israel ceasing to exist. It's hard to imagine a solution when that's the case.

At some point there will be all out war again. Only this time both sides will have nukes.

Well, Israel should cease to exist and be replaced with a multinational state. Maybe even a federation made up of three parts: Israel, Palestine and Jerusalem.

I'm not even trying to take sides, but when nations say you have to be "wiped from the face of the planet" then there just isn't going to be peace. There is too much hate (probably from all sides) for there to be peace without a lot of people dying.



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VGPolyglot said:
epicurean said:
Multiple Arab nations have rejected any solution that doesn't involve Israel ceasing to exist. It's hard to imagine a solution when that's the case.

At some point there will be all out war again. Only this time both sides will have nukes.

a federation made up of three parts: Israel, Palestine and Jerusalem.

I'll pretend this is what you said and agree.



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bigjon said:
1 state solution. All of Palestine belongs to Israel with the international community ensuring that the minority Palestinians are not abused. If people living on the west bank don't like it, they can move to the east bank (Jordan).

THIS. It's simple.



Its not okay for Israel to take land from Palatinates. Its wrong Why are we debating this lol. No one here would be okay if this happened to us. Israel has been pushed on them, and historically after WWII we understand what happened but we don't think its fair to have someone come in and steal your land. You can't fix what Germany did by hurting someone else. They are terrorists that are basically sanctioned by the US. I'm American and I am okay with admitting it. Its wrong.



Gamer147 said:
They have been fighting for over 2000 years, so there is no easy solution.

It’s been about 68 years. 2000 years ago the Palestinians were still Jewish; specifically Sadduccees. Most of the current day Jews are Ashkenazi and descendants of the Pharisees, the majority of them are immigrants only recently arrived on the Levant and lived in other locations for virtually their entire histories - particularly current day Rabbinical culture which began primarily outside Palestine during the Roman Imperial era and early Middle Ages.

The fighting is not the natural state of things.

Most people want peace. Many people I have spoken with strongly favour a single state. I think this is the best approach; it’s also consistent with my anti-theocratical beliefs (note, I am not anti-religious, I think it is an excellent cultural transmitter, and a testament to human achievement in many regards. I am against theocratical governments and feel that they are counter-productive to human progress).

There is also the massive refugee crisis that has emerged. Something caused by Israel and its allies, but with no proper measures or responsibility taken. Instead, the US, Israel, and the Saudis alternatively antagonize Iran, who has the most extensive refugee burden in the world thanks to the actions of these three countries. It's almost as though they enjoy the instability of the region.

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spurgeonryan said:
fory77 said:

I'll pretend this is what you said and agree.

Maybe the problem is these other Arab nations should not be involved. It is between Israel and Palestine. The other Arab countries have their own problems,  like make movie theaters legal again and terrorists. 

Why shouldn't they be? Along with the Persian nations, they have received the burden of several million refugees thanks to militant Israeli immigration. Jordan is pretty close to bursting into nationalism due to the Palestinian refugee crisis along with the addition of the Syrian and Iraqi crisis that began with the US invasion of Iraq.

This is all their fight.

I agree to leave Saudi Arabia out of it, since they don't take refugees.



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spurgeonryan said:
fory77 said:

I'll pretend this is what you said and agree.

Maybe the problem is these other Arab nations should not be involved. It is between Israel and Palestine. The other Arab countries have their own problems,  like make movie theaters legal again and terrorists. 

Unfortunately, until relatively recently the conflict was more between Israel and the entire Arab world, with the Palestinians little more than pawns of the Sunni Arab states and the Soviet Union.  Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, ect. were fighting to claim as much land for themselves as they could in 1948, not to create another another Arab state.  And no one considered making Gaza or the West Bank into a separate state when they were under Egyptian and Jordanian control.  Syria largely wanted to reclaim 'southern Syria.'  Egypt under Nasser had this grand idea for a huge Pan-Arab state that spanned the whole Middle East - led by him, of course - and Israel was in his way.  The Arab states deliberately discriminated against the Arab refugees from 1948 and have refused to allow them or their descendants to leave their refugee camps and become citizens.  No one cared a wit for the Palestinians except in how they could be useful in destroying Israel so the other states could take the land for themselves.