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Jranation on 30 November 2017
Acevil said:
VGPolyglot said:

Yeah, and you still haven't linked me to the posts that the quotes came from.

I wonder how many of those posts were before this thread was made. I imagine just one, but apparently enough to make this thread. 

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Lawlight on 30 November 2017
AngryLittleAlchemist said:

Lmao I love how Lawlight is saying people need to get moderated for taking this thread off topic... while literally taking this thread off topic by defending Kerotan to the last breath.

It really should not be so hard to have a constructive thread but when you constantly deny any answers but your own(without evidence might I add) is just an echo chamber. No hate towards any users, that is just the reality of what is happening. 

 

We can take the opportunity right now to make everything after this comment on topic.

Someone has to tell those people what they’re doing. I wouldn’t have to if mods were doing what they were meant to do.



Lawlight on 30 November 2017
VGPolyglot said:
Lawlight said:

I looked at your first post and you did not talk about the actual topic at hand. You wanted him to go through hundreds of posts to find the actual posts of people who said that. I mean, come on.

When his title is in quotations, it is implying that he is referencing a specific post. If the post in question does not exist, then there was no point at all for this prompt.

Even if he was talking about specific posts, you’re still asking him to go through hundreds of posts. To what end? Who know. What will you do if he links to those posts?



Lawlight on 30 November 2017
FloatingWaffles said:
Lawlight said:

Yeah but how many posts have actually argued the actual topic? You can't have a discussion when the whole first page of the topic is just people trolling (and looking at FloatingWaffles' post, it looks like it's still going).

And how exactly is my post trolling, apparently? 

Hmm... maybe because you’re attacking on the TC instead of the topicat hand.



FloatingWaffles on 30 November 2017
Lawlight said:
FloatingWaffles said:

And how exactly is my post trolling, apparently? 

Hmm... maybe because you’re attacking on the TC instead of the topicat hand.

I didn't 'attack' anyone first of all. I pointed out that not only is there no discussion to be had on the topic since Kerotan already made up his mind on it before even starting the thread, but also that a topic didn't need to be made about it in the first place and how hypocritical it was considering what Kerotan with his posts about Sony/PS4 but now that there's one that he doesn't like because it goes against Sony/PS4 he decides to make a thread about it? There was absolutely no point. He would be saying the same exact thing if the situation was reversed. 

Pointing out something is very different from 'attacking' someone.

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Lawlight on 30 November 2017
FloatingWaffles said:
Lawlight said:

Hmm... maybe because you’re attacking on the TC instead of the topicat hand.

I didn't 'attack' anyone first of all. I pointed out that not only is there no discussion to be had on the topic since Kerotan already made up his mind on it before even starting the thread, but also that a topic didn't need to be made about it in the first place and how hypocritical it was considering what Kerotan with his posts about Sony/PS4 but now that there's one that he doesn't like because it goes against Sony/PS4 he decides to make a thread about it? There was absolutely no point. He would be saying the same exact thing if the situation was reversed. 

Pointing out something is very different from 'attacking' someone.

He has his opinion and you’re free to say why you disagree. I don’t even one person has done that so far.



FloatingWaffles on 30 November 2017
Lawlight said:
FloatingWaffles said:

I didn't 'attack' anyone first of all. I pointed out that not only is there no discussion to be had on the topic since Kerotan already made up his mind on it before even starting the thread, but also that a topic didn't need to be made about it in the first place and how hypocritical it was considering what Kerotan with his posts about Sony/PS4 but now that there's one that he doesn't like because it goes against Sony/PS4 he decides to make a thread about it? There was absolutely no point. He would be saying the same exact thing if the situation was reversed. 

Pointing out something is very different from 'attacking' someone.

He has his opinion and you’re free to say why you disagree. I don’t even one person has done that so far.

Yes he has his own opinion but again he started the thread off with calling anyone who thinks that the Switch is eating PS4's sales as wrong basically by declaring it a 'myth' according to him immediately. Not much of a discussion to have if he already has his foot firmly planted on one side and won't even consider what anyone else says. Again, the thread was basically just "agree with me or you're wrong" from the beginning. 



VGPolyglot on 01 December 2017
Lawlight said:
VGPolyglot said:

When his title is in quotations, it is implying that he is referencing a specific post. If the post in question does not exist, then there was no point at all for this prompt.

Even if he was talking about specific posts, you’re still asking him to go through hundreds of posts. To what end? Who know. What will you do if he links to those posts?

You're saying that is if it's unreasonable for me to ask for proof, yet he keeps on saying "some people" without saying who he's even talking about, or which posts he is. So, I don't even know if he is talking about real people or just strawmen.



Kerotan on 01 December 2017
Jranation said:
Kerotan said:

 

I'm actually surprised they haven't taken issue with jrnation. So many of his post are either 1 word or 1 liners and usually add nothing to the thread. It's almost the equivalent of quoting someone and just writing "+1" as your reply.

I wonder why..... Maybe cause it doesn't break any rules or standards? 

Personally I'd call it spam and the mods did say they'd crack down on posts like the ones you make but looks like they never followed through. 

 

Why do you wrote such short pointless posts? Are you trying to increase your post count or something?

FloatingWaffles said:
Lawlight said:

He has his opinion and you’re free to say why you disagree. I don’t even one person has done that so far.

Yes he has his own opinion but again he started the thread off with calling anyone who thinks that the Switch is eating PS4's sales as wrong basically by declaring it a 'myth' according to him immediately. Not much of a discussion to have if he already has his foot firmly planted on one side and won't even consider what anyone else says. Again, the thread was basically just "agree with me or you're wrong" from the beginning. 

Seriously though nobody who disagrees has even tackled the point I made. Miyamotto is the best example. The spin doctor himself. He pretends he's already addressed it and then waffles on about something else just to avoid the point. 



fielding88 on 01 December 2017
VGPolyglot said:
Lawlight said:

Even if he was talking about specific posts, you’re still asking him to go through hundreds of posts. To what end? Who know. What will you do if he links to those posts?

You're saying that is if it's unreasonable for me to ask for proof, yet he keeps on saying "some people" without saying who he's even talking about, or which posts he is. So, I don't even know if he is talking about real people or just strawmen.

Okay, so the level of discourse in this entire topic has been atrocious. You asked for a fair amount of evidence that has been frequently refused. 

I could just say something like "It's pretty clear that the Switch has the potential of cannibalizing Sony sales. If you disagree, I look forward to your numbers that prove otherwise (since the burden of proof isnt on the person making the claim, right)." That's nonsense. How can you talk to that kind of statement?

If we want a higher level is discussion that isn't based on strawmen and vagaries, I'll help you out. I went through the MC thread looking at all of the cannibalism related pieces of discussion that happened before Kerotan started this echo chamber. Even if it didn't say the word 'cannibal,' but seemed kind of related, I posted it below: 

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8642332 -> mentions Switch taking share from PS4 (no cannibal)
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8642366 -> mentions Switch vs PS4 (no cannibal)
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8642395 -> ASKS whether Switch will start cannibalising PS4 as a point of discussion (yes cannibal)
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8642438 -> reiterates the question, with a personal conclusion (implied cannibal)
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8642452 -> Kerotan post about PS4 (no cannibal)
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8642481 -> replies to the question about cannibalism (yes cannibal)
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8642696 -> Kerotan replies to the post about cannibalism calling it a 'myth' (yes cannibal)
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8642739 -> replies to Kerotan and says the Switch is eating everyone's lunch (no cannibal)
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8642955 -> replies to Kerotan (yes cannibal)

Three people (including Kerotan) used this word before the thread was created. 

Three. 

Three does not make a myth. And one of them came in here and retracted the statement. 




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