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Lawlight on 30 November 2017
KLAMarine said:
Cannibalizing?...

As for undermining PS4's efforts in Japan, maybe. I mean, the Switch is Japan's go-to platform now when I think it was the PS4 previously.

I blame those damn squid kids. They're too adorable for Japan to resist.

It was never the PS4. Japan doesn’t game at home anymore.



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KLAMarine on 30 November 2017
Lawlight said:
KLAMarine said:
Cannibalizing?...

As for undermining PS4's efforts in Japan, maybe. I mean, the Switch is Japan's go-to platform now when I think it was the PS4 previously.

I blame those damn squid kids. They're too adorable for Japan to resist.

It was never the PS4. Japan doesn’t game at home anymore.

So Vita/3ds?



Flilix on 30 November 2017
zorg1000 said:
Flilix said:
First the Switch was killing it, now it's proceeding to cannibalism.

What else do you do to the things you kill other than eat them?

Let it rot till it's gone.



IkePoR on 30 November 2017
Kerotan said:
Ljink96 said:

Okay I'll "stay on topic". Regarding the "topic", cannibalizing isn't the correct terminology. Destroying is more like it. Switch is destroying the PS4 in Japan. There I said it. Even if Nintendo just released Pokemon on Switch for its lifetime, it'll outsell the PS4 in Japan. It's just the way that the market is headed over there. Japanese gamers just don't care for a console only experience. Hell, if Switch was only a console it'd probably sell like the Gamecube or Wii U at best.

There's no need to play footsies with a topic like this, call it like it is. PS has lost Japan to Nintendo. Doesn't mean they're doing bad, doesn't mean that one company is inherently "better" than the other. I'd be insane to question PS4's dominance in Europe and try to spin it in Nintendo's favor. It just doesn't work.

You're actually not on topic. The isn't ps4 vs 3ds. This is highlighting the real reasons why q4 2016 is higher then q4 2017 for ps4.

And that reason is the Switch exists and is taking sales away from the PS4.  Also known as cannibalizing sales.



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Ljink96 on 30 November 2017
Kerotan said:
Ljink96 said:

Okay I'll "stay on topic". Regarding the "topic", cannibalizing isn't the correct terminology. Destroying is more like it. Switch is destroying the PS4 in Japan. There I said it. Even if Nintendo just released Pokemon on Switch for its lifetime, it'll outsell the PS4 in Japan. It's just the way that the market is headed over there. Japanese gamers just don't care for a console only experience. Hell, if Switch was only a console it'd probably sell like the Gamecube or Wii U at best.

There's no need to play footsies with a topic like this, call it like it is. PS has lost Japan to Nintendo. Doesn't mean they're doing bad, doesn't mean that one company is inherently "better" than the other. I'd be insane to question PS4's dominance in Europe and try to spin it in Nintendo's favor. It just doesn't work.

You're actually not on topic. The isn't ps4 vs 3ds. This is highlighting the real reasons why q4 2016 is higher then q4 2017 for ps4.

I didn't mention a single word about 3DS, and the topic is literally "Switch is cannibalizing PS4 sales in Japan" which in itself isn't even a cohesive statement. 

And you literally asked:

"So are sales down because switch magically started eating it's sales this quarter when the quarters before that clearly didn't have that. "

My answer is, PS4 sales are down because Switch was introduced to the market, and because Switch is hitting numbers that PS4 didn't in its first year in Japan, the audience has spoken for who they will support more efficiently. Dreamcast fans should know this very well. Once PS2 hit the market, Dreamcast consumer support dwindled until it was dead. Dreamcast didn't MAGICALLY get its sales eaten. A more formidable and compatible opponent showed up. This won't be as huge of an effect but it has shown signs of it indeed. Japanese gamers have only really supported Japanese games on PS4. Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy are probably the biggest sellers there. And supposedly both of those series are coming to Switch. The writing is on the wall, the portability factor mixed with games that Japanese gamers actually play is what is pushing the Switch past PS4.

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Lawlight on 30 November 2017
KLAMarine said:
Lawlight said:

It was never the PS4. Japan doesn’t game at home anymore.

So Vita/3ds?

Yeah, primarily the 3DS. Look at its sales numbers - huge compared to other regions.



Lawlight on 30 November 2017
IkePoR said:
Kerotan said:

You're actually not on topic. The isn't ps4 vs 3ds. This is highlighting the real reasons why q4 2016 is higher then q4 2017 for ps4.

And that reason is the Switch exists and is taking sales away from the PS4.  Also known as cannibalizing sales.

So you don’t think a price cut has anything to do with it? Or new revision release?



zorg1000 on 30 November 2017
Flilix said:
zorg1000 said:

What else do you do to the things you kill other than eat them?

Let it rot till it's gone.

You just made all the native american indians cry.



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zorg1000 on 30 November 2017
Lawlight said:
KLAMarine said:

So Vita/3ds?

Yeah, primarily the 3DS. Look at its sales numbers - huge compared to other regions.

3DS sales are actually pretty well balanced between the 3 regions that Nintendo breaks it down into. All 3 are between 21-24 million.

Now if you're talking in terms of market share than you are correct. 3DS makes up about 60% of all 8th gen console sales in Japan while it makes up about 30% in America & Europe.



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Lawlight on 30 November 2017
zorg1000 said:
Lawlight said:

Yeah, primarily the 3DS. Look at its sales numbers - huge compared to other regions.

3DS sales are actually pretty well balanced between the 3 regions that Nintendo breaks it down into. All 3 are between 21-24 million.

Now if you're talking in terms of market share than you are correct. 3DS makes up about 60% of all 8th gen console sales in Japan while it makes up about 30% in America & Europe.

Uh, it sold more in Japan than continents. Either the 3DS is underperforming in the other countries or it’s overperforming in Japan.