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Last November,

I supported him and I still do - Americas 91 15.77%
 
I supported him and I now don't - Americas 16 2.77%
 
I supported him and I still do - Europe 37 6.41%
 
I supported him and I now don't - Europe 7 1.21%
 
I supported him and I still do - Asia 6 1.04%
 
I supported him and I now don't - Asia 1 0.17%
 
I supported him and I still do - RoW 15 2.60%
 
I supported him and I now don't - RoW 2 0.35%
 
I didn't support him and still don't. 373 64.64%
 
I didn't support him and now do. 29 5.03%
 
Total:577
Runa216 said:
Immersiveunreality said:

I do not know what to think of that article,it tells us a tale of vague information about researchers and statistics and treats it as facts,and even then it tells us that these statistics show us that rape is not remembered well in some cases, like it is a rarity.

Like i said i can not give you full closure of what the truth is,my own experience with trauma is remembering each detail clearly even if i want to forget.

So, what I'm getting from this is that it literally doesn't matter whether she remembered everything vividly or not from 35 years ago, you wouldn't have believed her in spite of decades of research into trauma of this sort. 

I know that's not what you're saying...but it's totally what you're saying. 

Yeah without evidence she can be lying about it all so indeed i would not have believed her in spite of decades of laughable "research" you talk about.



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SuaveSocialist said:
Snoopy said:

1. Yes, because we allow the Federal Government to control everything instead of giving more rights to the state government.

So...because you allow the Federal Government to control everything...other countries, whose governments are even more involved in their healthcare, spend vastly less than yours.

Seems legit.

Well when the federal government won't allow competition, I say yes it is their fault.



the-pi-guy said:
TH3-D0S3R said:

The most traumatic moment in my life was by far when my parents got divorced. This idea of not being able to memorize ideas that you repress is bullshit. I still remember exact details of how it happened (I dont know the exact day number since that wasn't important but I know it took place in the month of April). This idea that you can't remember memories that you repress is stupid purely for the fact that you must constantly remember the even in order to push it down. I remember the time of day, the day of the week, how I left my classes when I found out, where I was told it, how we pulled away from the school, and where I went afterwards.

I must add that I have repressed these thoughts for about 8 years now, and when it comes to basic memory I'm only good at memorizing tidbits of information. In other words my general memorization skills are shit. On top of that whenever I talk to people, 99% of them can remember everything around their own worst moment(s) in life.

first bold:
You are not describing repressed memories, because that's not what they are.  

An actual repressed memory is a memory you can't even remember.  

second bold:

And how exactly do you measure what their worst moments in life are?  What if there was a worse moment in their life that they absolutely did not remember any details about?  You wouldn't know.    

And how do you measure how much they remember around their worst moments? 

I can't remember hardly anything around the worst few moments of my life, and I have a far better memory than most people.  

Snoopy said:

1. Yes, because we allow the Federal Government to control everything instead of giving more rights to the state government.

2. Because it's one of the many examples of contradictions. She is willing to fly during a vacation, but when it is something more important she is "conveniently scared of flying" lol.

2b.)Elizabeth is supposedly running for 2020 president and just another example of Democrats making themselves look bad. 

3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aqCOEEPEi4

1.  That doesn't address the comment.  Other federal governments are better able to reduce prices than our country.  
And that's not true anyways.  When it comes to healthcare, federal government has more ability to reduce prices.  

2.)  That's not a contradiction.  I have little doubt that I would feel the exact same way in her position.  I hate flying, and I hate public speaking.  

If I had to fly somewhere to have part of my life disected, I'd be fricken horrified.  

This here is what I don't understand.  "She must be lying", despite the fact that plenty of honest people would have the same kind of justifications thrown at them.


2b.)  Elizabeth Warren, what she says or does doesn't matter.  Democrats aren't a giant body where one decision gets made and it gets reflected on everyone.  

3.)  A "trade deficit" is not being ripped off.  

1. Sadly our federal government attracts corrupt people. When you are the most powerful country in the world that sort of thing happens. That's why I am all about the downsizing of the federal government and giving more power to the states. Since states have to attract people in order to make money, they will have more incentives on doing what's right.

 

2. She must be lying because she didn't have proof and decided to say something after all these years. Not to mention all of the excuses and "conveniently forgetting key moments".

 

2 A. You do realize people in general base your group on a few bad apples or in the case of Democrats a lot of bad apples. Not saying it is right, but if you have a bunch of Democrat candidates running for president saying stupid stuff like that, it hurts the group.

 

3. Losing our jobs due to currency manipulation is ripping us off. There are other ways China is ripping us off as well.



PortisheadBiscuit said:
EricHiggin said:

Why nothing to back that up this time? 

Nope, your mental gymnastics are Olympic level...no interest in continuing a discussion headed no where :) 

That is a good one,no elaboration needed when you use that term.

I guess your mental gymnastics are a good example in showing its real uses . ;)

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jason1637 said:
Machiavellian said:

Come on, do you believe the millions Trump has gained from the Tax cuts is even close to that chump change the President makes a year.  Hell, most CEOs of even middle level companies bring home more than that.  Jason, please tell me you did not fall for that piece of gamesmanship.

Thats my point. Why become President when he can make more by running his businesses. ven if you give a tax cut it will be undone when the other party comes into power.

He still is running his business and he still benefits from them while changing policy that make his business richer.  I really am not sure why you cannot see this.  Did you forget that Trump did not put his business into a blind trust.

So as president, Trump can and has removed regulations to increase his business bottom line.  The tax cut and inheritance tax gives him a means to gain millions for years.  Being president has caused a huge increase in foreign dignitaries, lobbyist and republicans staying at his DC hotel not to mention his other properties.

As I stated before, you would have a point if Trump actually did divest from his businesses and put it into a blind trust but since he did not he is still in control and still gains wealth from them.  Him not running the day to day events doesn't mean he isn't making a killing.

Even if another President comes into office in his mind he will be serving for 8 years.  That's one tidy sum he would be netting for nearly a decade.  Even 4 years would still be huge compared to the salary of a President.  



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Snoopy said:
SuaveSocialist said:

So...because you allow the Federal Government to control everything...other countries, whose governments are even more involved in their healthcare, spend vastly less than yours.

Seems legit.

Well when the federal government won't allow competition, I say yes it is their fault.

So...your Federal Goverenment does not allow competition whereas other countries’ governments, who have more control and are more involved in their health care system, DO allow competition, and this is why yours spends vastly more than them.

But instead of blaming “competition” (or a lack thereof), you said it was because you allowed your Federal Government, not your State Government, to have control.

Seems legit.



the-pi-guy said:
TH3-D0S3R said:

The most traumatic moment in my life was by far when my parents got divorced. This idea of not being able to memorize ideas that you repress is bullshit. I still remember exact details of how it happened (I dont know the exact day number since that wasn't important but I know it took place in the month of April). This idea that you can't remember memories that you repress is stupid purely for the fact that you must constantly remember the even in order to push it down. I remember the time of day, the day of the week, how I left my classes when I found out, where I was told it, how we pulled away from the school, and where I went afterwards.

I must add that I have repressed these thoughts for about 8 years now, and when it comes to basic memory I'm only good at memorizing tidbits of information. In other words my general memorization skills are shit. On top of that whenever I talk to people, 99% of them can remember everything around their own worst moment(s) in life.

first bold:
You are not describing repressed memories, because that's not what they are.  

An actual repressed memory is a memory you can't even remember.  

second bold:

And how exactly do you measure what their worst moments in life are?  What if there was a worse moment in their life that they absolutely did not remember any details about?  You wouldn't know.    

And how do you measure how much they remember around their worst moments? 

I can't remember hardly anything around the worst few moments of my life, and I have a far better memory than most people.  

Snoopy said:

1. Yes, because we allow the Federal Government to control everything instead of giving more rights to the state government.

2. Because it's one of the many examples of contradictions. She is willing to fly during a vacation, but when it is something more important she is "conveniently scared of flying" lol.

2b.)Elizabeth is supposedly running for 2020 president and just another example of Democrats making themselves look bad. 

3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aqCOEEPEi4

1.  That doesn't address the comment.  Other federal governments are better able to reduce prices than our country.  
And that's not true anyways.  When it comes to healthcare, federal government has more ability to reduce prices.  

2.)  That's not a contradiction.  I have little doubt that I would feel the exact same way in her position.  I hate flying, and I hate public speaking.  

If I had to fly somewhere to have part of my life disected, I'd be fricken horrified.  

This here is what I don't understand.  "She must be lying", despite the fact that plenty of honest people would have the same kind of justifications thrown at them.


2b.)  Elizabeth Warren, what she says or does doesn't matter.  Democrats aren't a giant body where one decision gets made and it gets reflected on everyone.  

3.)  A "trade deficit" is not being ripped off.  

Bolded: I would say it is a memory you do not want to remember and most fail in this practice, sadly.



SuaveSocialist said:
Snoopy said:

Well when the federal government won't allow competition, I say yes it is their fault.

So...your Federal Goverenment does not allow competition whereas other countries’ governments, who have more control and are more involved in their health care system, DO allow competition, and this is why yours spends vastly more than them.

But instead of blaming “competition” (or a lack thereof), you said it was because you allowed your Federal Government, not your State Government, to have control.

Seems legit.

Never thought about Snoopy being the federal government but now that you tell us he is the one allowing them it truly sheds a light on it all.

Very legit indeed!



Immersiveunreality said:
SuaveSocialist said:

So...your Federal Goverenment does not allow competition whereas other countries’ governments, who have more control and are more involved in their health care system, DO allow competition, and this is why yours spends vastly more than them.

But instead of blaming “competition” (or a lack thereof), you said it was because you allowed your Federal Government, not your State Government, to have control.

Seems legit.

Never thought about Snoopy being the federal government but now that you tell us he is the one allowing them it truly sheds a light on it all.

Just going by what he said (which is hilariously contradictory).  Scroll up and read for yourself. 

"...we allow the Federal Government to control everything instead of giving more rights to the state government." --Snoopy




EricHiggin said:

Machiavellian said:

lol, still playing the Trump game.  Never said you stated Trump accomplished anything, I stated you are blaming everyone else for Trump's failure which is totally different.  You stated no matter what he would do, the left would find fault.  Children use that kind of logic when they do something wrong.  My son tried that on me when we asked him why he punched someone in school. He was like, no matter what I say you will not believe me.  I told him if he did not lie so much he wouldn't have that concern today.  He was looking for pity and I was clear there isn't any.  You live and die by your choices nothing is given in this world.

Left this right that, whatever.  There is no fairness on either side because each side only sees what they want to see.  As long as you only see left and right instead of people, you will always fall under the same trap.  You are so consumed about labels you forget that everyone no matter left or right actually share a lot of common ideals.  What separate each group is each group trying to put the other into a box so they can them paint them with a broad stroke.  As you rail against the left, you act no better than what you see or paint them to be.  

Ya, you did. You initially asked who, and then followed up by pointing out it was me and then explained your reasoning.

I am blaming everyone else? Everyone? How often do the left just let something go, or say something positive about Trump, in comparison to finding a way to bash him by any means? Children exaggerate... especially when they are caught or in trouble. Who's fault is it that your son lies all the time? Who set that example? Who should have put a stop to it asap? 

Partially true yes. When did I say I think everyone has nothing in common and can't come to terms in some cases? I don't remember using a word like deplorable since words that have no place when talking about the public in general. Rail against the left? I responded to a hit against the right. I'm balancing the viewpoint on the subject. You don't get balance by letting someone knock you down and continue to kick you while your down, slowly accumulating more kickers. The reason why the boxes exist is because while I, from time to time see a center righty or indy admit they are wrong or at least admit they didn't see things a certain way and need to rethink their position, I almost never see a lefty do so. They tend to spin the point or lie through their teeth if need be to hold their position. The far right can be the same way. It's like weighing a bar of gold vs a feather and expecting them to agree the scale should be balanced. The feather can't do much to gain weight, but the gold bar can sure change to lose enough to balance the scale, but it's gold, so why would it degrade itself, right? Equality?

You seem to be missing the first response to your post where as I stated again you continue to blame everyone else for Trump failures, character flaws or choices he makes.  Its always the Dems, the left, the media but never Trump. In politics, no one just let something go.  Every president has had every decision criticized, how that person handle that pressure is what defines their character.

As for my son lies, anything he does is his choice. Children lie to get out of trouble and its the parent's job to work on those flaws and help them understand the consequences of their actions.  The fault will always be on the child and the responsibility to correct those faults are with the parents.  From your response, I see why you accept Trump lies and always look to blame someone else. You look to shift blame or find someone or something else for the choices the President makes.

If I understand what you are saying, you need to put people into a box. Lets take the word deplorable.  So one person used that word and now you are painting all people left as following the same thinking as that one person.  So every time one person says something you do not agree with, if they are on the left or you believe they are on the left, you just paint them with that broad stroke instead of the individual.