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Forums - Sales - NPD Analyst Expects Over 600,000 Xbox One X Sold this Year; PS4, Xbox One, Switch Could All Win November

 

NPD, Who wins?

Switch! 43 31.62%
 
Xbox! 20 14.71%
 
Playstation! 66 48.53%
 
Ouya! 7 5.15%
 
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Insidb on 27 November 2017
thismeintiel said:
Insidb said:

I have no idea who they are or how they aggregate; if it's by leader on platform (averaging percentages), then the dataset is shot.

It wouldn't be so questionable, if not for that glaring absurdity on the day that the PS4 climbed to #1 on Amazon.

And every other major website.  Walmart, Gamestop, Best Buy, etc.  You name it, the PS4 was on top for those first few days.

Yeah, it strikes me as more than peculiar.



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Storeman67 on 27 November 2017
hudsoniscool said:
ironmanDX said:

They both were announced at E3. If one was low key, so then must be the other. The X was announced as being part of the xbox one family. All games and accessories were compatible with the both X and S... So.. No. It was marketed as a premium xbox one with a premium price. It did have more time to drum up some hype though.


If many XBO gamers are tired of 720p-900p then the figures should be way higher than 600k. A mere 120k more than a supply constrained pro during the busiest shopping period of the year? No chance.

There's also 1 big difference as well on the other side. When pro launched it was 249-299 for a PS4 and only 399 for the pro. That's not a hard sell. Upgrading to a much stronger system for 100$. This year the difference between the xb1s and x is 250-300$. That's a hard sell no matter how big of a upgrade. The fact that it's on pace to "blow by" 600k in the US is very impressive to me when the pro only did 500k in the same time frame.

Storeman67 said:

In the UK One X sales are already grinding to a halt. It's been out of Amazon's top 100 for 2 weeks and has received its first price cut. It's difficult to see a path forward without major discounts or bundles. The past week Pro has been trending well above One X, no doubt due to a £100+ price difference and bundled games.

Before we start calling doom let's wait for some numbers because it did really well in its first week.

That first week is proving to be extremely front loaded. Even with  the launch of One X, Microsoft's UK Black Friday (week) sales where down on the previous year, PS4 was up again. The UK is a price sensitive market at the best of times. Microsoft cannot hold that £450 price tag when Sony are pushing Pro's out the door nearer to £299. Once we move into the New Year, price will be a far greater factor.



Insidb on 27 November 2017
CosmicSex said:
I see folks arguing about the Switch and Black Friday numbers. Consider the following:

The Xbox One S was the high seller on Black Friday at the biggest online retailers hands down.
The PS4 was the highest brick and mortar store hands down easily winning GameStop
I am not sure how Adobe's numbers work, but they fail at Amazon and they don't account for retail.
Ask yourself what sells more on Black Friday: Online or Retail?
This in no way discounts the Switch or its ability to win which should be self evident by now, I am merely challenging you guys to be more analytical.

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ironmanDX on 27 November 2017
CosmicSex said:
I see folks arguing about the Switch and Black Friday numbers. Consider the following:

The Xbox One S was the high seller on Black Friday at the biggest online retailers hands down.
The PS4 was the highest brick and mortar store hands down easily winning GameStop
I am not sure how Adobe's numbers work, but they fail at Amazon and they don't account for retail.
Ask yourself what sells more on Black Friday: Online or Retail?
This in no way discounts the Switch or its ability to win which should be self evident by now, I am merely challenging you guys to be more analytical.

What are you basing your analysis off?



ironmanDX on 27 November 2017
TruckOSaurus said:
November's NPD is going to be very interesting... if we get numbers that is.

All 3 had a good haul... Is it wishful thinking that all 3 will give us numbers?

When will we get November npd?



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thismeintiel on 27 November 2017
TruckOSaurus said:
November's NPD is going to be very interesting... if we get numbers that is.

Well, at the very least, we should get who came in 1st.



 

TruckOSaurus on 27 November 2017
ironmanDX said:
TruckOSaurus said:
November's NPD is going to be very interesting... if we get numbers that is.

All 3 had a good haul... Is it wishful thinking that all 3 will give us numbers?

When will we get November npd?

 

thismeintiel said:
TruckOSaurus said:
November's NPD is going to be very interesting... if we get numbers that is.

Well, at the very least, we should get who came in 1st.

Since everyone will have something to brag about I'm hoping we'll get it all too.



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thismeintiel on 27 November 2017
TruckOSaurus said:
ironmanDX said:

All 3 had a good haul... Is it wishful thinking that all 3 will give us numbers?

When will we get November npd?

 

thismeintiel said:

Well, at the very least, we should get who came in 1st.

Since everyone will have something to brag about I'm hoping we'll get it all too.

Well, unless they win, I don't think either company will says anything.  If Sony doesn't win, they will leave it at that they had their best BF ever.  Nintendo may talk about how well Mario did, but I doubt they will give HW numbers if they don't win.  And if MS doesn't win, they MAY give X numbers if it was better than the Pro, but I highly doubt they will give their overall numbers.



 

CosmicSex on 27 November 2017
ironmanDX said:
CosmicSex said:
I see folks arguing about the Switch and Black Friday numbers. Consider the following:

The Xbox One S was the high seller on Black Friday at the biggest online retailers hands down.
The PS4 was the highest brick and mortar store hands down easily winning GameStop
I am not sure how Adobe's numbers work, but they fail at Amazon and they don't account for retail.
Ask yourself what sells more on Black Friday: Online or Retail?
This in no way discounts the Switch or its ability to win which should be self evident by now, I am merely challenging you guys to be more analytical.

What are you basing your analysis off?

My observation of sales at the largest online and retail stores.   It gives me pause before declaring one winner or another.  I don't feel that Adobe's news is complete enough to tell us who actually won.  the statement here "we sold more consoles than in our 22 year history" should make everyone stop and realize that we don't have enough data.



VideoGameAccountant on 27 November 2017
CosmicSex said:
I see folks arguing about the Switch and Black Friday numbers. Consider the following:

The Xbox One S was the high seller on Black Friday at the biggest online retailers hands down.
The PS4 was the highest brick and mortar store hands down easily winning GameStop
I am not sure how Adobe's numbers work, but they fail at Amazon and they don't account for retail.
Ask yourself what sells more on Black Friday: Online or Retail?
This in no way discounts the Switch or its ability to win which should be self evident by now, I am merely challenging you guys to be more analytical.

In terms of Online vs Retail, here is some information for 2016.

https://www.practicalecommerce.com/Sales-Report-2016-Thanksgiving-Day-Black-Friday-Cyber-Monday

Data from the National Retail Federation shows that many consumers no longer find it necessary or appealing to shop in physical stores. The trade group’s consumer survey found that 108.5 million people shopped Black Friday deals online while 99 million went to stores.

Electronics and appliances showed the greatest growth over 2015, growing 26.5 percent year-over-year, both online and in store.

So we can surmise that online shopping is getting close to retail (with about 50 percent in 2016). So the Adobe information would still be very relevant.  



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