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Darc Requiem on 10 April 2008

No one has hit on the reason why the PS3 isn't doing well in Japan. I was waiting for someone to do so but I haven't seen unless I missed the post. The PS3 lacks enough casual pick up and play titles. The reason portables and the Wii are doing so well in Japan because they have a significant number a games that can be played in short play sessions. The Japanese don't have the free time that we do and often spend 2 to 3 hours a day on mass transit transportation systems. The 360 has more traditional Japanese centric titles than the PS3 and arguably the Wii and it isn't selling either.

Nintendo said the market in Japan was changing everyone thought they were crazy but the market trends in Japan show that Nintendo was right. Between the more limited free time and the simple fact that the Japanese have been playing the same traditional "hardcore" game genres for the past 20 years have snowballed into the current Japanese market situation.



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crumas2 on 10 April 2008
Darc Requiem said:
No one has hit on the reason why the PS3 isn't doing well in Japan. I was waiting for someone to do so but I haven't seen unless I missed the post. The PS3 lacks enough casual pick up and play titles. The reason portables and the Wii are doing so well in Japan because they have a significant number a games that can be played in short play sessions. The Japanese don't have the free time that we do and often spend 2 to 3 hours a day on mass transit transportation systems. The 360 has more traditional Japanese centric titles than the PS3 and arguably the Wii and it isn't selling either.

Nintendo said the market in Japan was changing everyone thought they were crazy but the market trends in Japan show that Nintendo was right. Between the more limited free time and the simple fact that the Japanese have been playing the same traditional "hardcore" game genres for the past 20 years have snowballed into the current Japanese market situation.

Good points. Isn't the average Japanese home a lot smaller than the average American home?  The PS3 is a beast, sizewise, compared with the Wii.



Stever89 on 10 April 2008
CrazzyMan said:
NOT enough Japan oriented games.
Almost NO JRPG. Are you people insane? A console without good jrpg won`t sell in Japan.
But everything will be FINE by the end of this year.
After MGS4, RE5, WKS, ES, LR, FFXIII, GT5, SO4, KH3 and other Japan oriented games PS3 will gain, just like PSP now gaining after MH2G release.

You are worrying, like 1 year ago, when some people were thinking that PS3 is doomed, LOL. =)

It will take some time, BUT it will gain.
You don`t believe me? Then look at psOne sales in Japan. =)
http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunch.php?cons1=PS&reg1=Japan&cons2=PS3&reg2=Japan&cons3=PS3&reg3=------&weeks=120
PS3 is the ONLY HD console in Japan, after PS3 games will show their glory, PS3 sales will skyrocket. =]

What is this game? It can't be Kingdom Hearts 3, because that hasn't been confirmed for any console yet. I hope you aren't getting so desparate as to use games that haven't even been announced as your systems savior.



FishyJoe on 10 April 2008

I think the social aspect is being ignored as well. People want to feel connected to each other. With the Wii, there are many games available where they can play with friends and family, irregardless of experience, and everyone can have a good time. That type of social gaming really doesn't exist for the PS3 and X360 to any large extent.



CrazzyMan on 10 April 2008

PSP has proved, that even standing against mega popular ds in Japan, it still can sell well.
PS3 has more powerful BRAND + it will have more AAA titles coming. The only problem, most of those AAA games is not out yet. But after 1 year situation will change, and you will see PS3 doing like PSP today or even better. =)



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2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far

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Ail on 10 April 2008
FishyJoe said:
Wait, they removed BC to lower the price. Japan now has the lowest PS3 prices at close to $310 street price. Now Sony is supposed to put BC back in after it's shut down that production line? It not like they can just flip a switch, they would have to reorder all the parts and retool the production line again. That stuff costs money.

Putting software emulation BC would not require them to change any of their production line ( and wound't actually cost them anything because the software has been developped anyway...)



PS3-Xbox360 gap : 1.5 millions and going up in PS3 favor !

PS3-Wii gap : 20 millions and going down !

*~Onna76~* on 10 April 2008
Stever89 said:
CrazzyMan said:
NOT enough Japan oriented games.
Almost NO JRPG. Are you people insane? A console without good jrpg won`t sell in Japan.
But everything will be FINE by the end of this year.
After MGS4, RE5, WKS, ES, LR, FFXIII, GT5, SO4, KH3 and other Japan oriented games PS3 will gain, just like PSP now gaining after MH2G release.

You are worrying, like 1 year ago, when some people were thinking that PS3 is doomed, LOL. =)

It will take some time, BUT it will gain.
You don`t believe me? Then look at psOne sales in Japan. =)
http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunch.php?cons1=PS®1=Japan&cons2=PS3®2=Japan&cons3=PS3®3=------&weeks=120
PS3 is the ONLY HD console in Japan, after PS3 games will show their glory, PS3 sales will skyrocket. =]

What is this game? It can't be Kingdom Hearts 3, because that hasn't been confirmed for any console yet. I hope you aren't getting so desparate as to use games that haven't even been announced as your systems savior.


I hope so, KH3 in HD is so much better

Star Ocean IV hasn't been officially announced either



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Neos on 10 April 2008

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TheBigFatJ on 10 April 2008
konnichiwa said:
Well I believe their will be a time that the PS3 will come back. Where is the time where the members on this site laughed how bad the PSP sold in Japan and how DS pwns the PSP every week.

When some of the hot Japanese games will release the PS3 will sell well :).

But right now the DS is way out of reach for the PSP, ever.  And the PSP sells software *so* badly that it occationally sells more hardware than software.  That's unbelievable.



DMeisterJ on 10 April 2008

Does everyone remember the thread like this made a few months ago, about how the 'PSP is dead in Japan', and now the PSP is outselling all other platforms with no new releases? I think we're calling this just a little too early.

It'll be two years since PS3's launch this fall, and they are probably priming a Slimline PS3, as the Slimline PSP came out 2.5 yrs after launch. And we all know what that did in Japan. I'll reserve my judgment on the "death of ps3 in Japan", at least for a year or two.