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turdlips on 28 November 2017
Insidb said:
pitzy272 said:

I’m not saying you’re wrong, and I see where you’re coming from, but there are a few things being neglected in this argument, as I see it:

1. How often does Sony parade being #1? Surprisingly infrequently. Idk about other people, but I’ve been quite surprised at how often Sony takes the chance to mention that they are not only #1 globally, but also specifically in the US. When was the last time they gave a comment on NPD? On the other hand, MS in the past has won a single NPD after a long series of losses, but takes the opportunity to announce being the “#1 console in America”.

2. See the last part of #1. If MS would have won this month/Black Friday, there’s no way they wouldn’t have blasted this from the rooftops by now. Yet we’ve heard nothing from them (unless I missed something from today). 

3. Another possibility is that Sony and MS and Nintendo don’t actually know each other’s data yet. Not sure if that’s likely or not. 

Hardly ever, which is why the PR surprised me.

Sony responds on almost every NPD about leading in sales of hardware and software. Often mentioning being #1. A simple google search shows that.



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drkohler on 28 November 2017
turdlips said:

Sony responds on almost every NPD about leading in sales of hardware and software. Often mentioning being #1. A simple google search shows that.

Prove it.

Seriously, what is it with all those recent newbie posters selling one liners like "XBox is a beast", or plain nonsense like this newbie?



Jaxyfoo on 28 November 2017

Stop bullying the new guys, you meanies. We all know that Shu, fake kaz, real kaz, Shaun and the Sony marketing department tweet about being number 1, every hour on the hour and every NPD. In no way is the reality, that this is the first PR for years about anything, but worldwide total sales.



Pionner on 28 November 2017

Sony used to comment on every NPD whether they were number 1 or not. Confidently letting it be known if they won the month, leading in software sales, and the hardware sales leader. Ever since the Pro they haven't said anything.



Formerly ilovegirls69  :(

Insidb on 28 November 2017
drkohler said:
turdlips said:

Sony responds on almost every NPD about leading in sales of hardware and software. Often mentioning being #1. A simple google search shows that.

Prove it.

Seriously, what is it with all those recent newbie posters selling one liners like "XBox is a beast", or plain nonsense like this newbie?

The NeoGAF death spiral effect?



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hudsoniscool on 28 November 2017
pitzy272 said:
hudsoniscool said:

It's actually textbook  pr spin. They said the same thing the year before but ended up having the worst November  npd in years, down about 40% from 2015. If Microsoft would have came out and released a pr and said ' xb1x launch week was the best selling week for Xbox since xb1 launch' this would be pr spin no matter how true it is (is 100% true in the U.K.). Sonys statement makes it sound like it destroyed all the competition, without actually saying they did. 

 

For the record cord I have no problem with them saying it, good for them. And I still expect them to win npd but I believe it will be close.

I’m not saying you’re wrong, and I see where you’re coming from, but there are a few things being neglected in this argument, as I see it:

1. How often does Sony parade being #1? Surprisingly infrequently. Idk about other people, but I’ve been quite surprised at how often Sony takes the chance to mention that they are not only #1 globally, but also specifically in the US. When was the last time they gave a comment on NPD? On the other hand, MS in the past has won a single NPD after a long series of losses, but takes the opportunity to announce being the “#1 console in America”.

2. See the last part of #1. If MS would have won this month/Black Friday, there’s no way they wouldn’t have blasted this from the rooftops by now. Yet we’ve heard nothing from them (unless I missed something from today). 

3. Another possibility is that Sony and MS and Nintendo don’t actually know each other’s data yet. Not sure if that’s likely or not. 

Ur right Sony doesn't do it often. And I'm not even going to try to explain why I think Sonys statement may have been 'pr fluff'. I think Sonys doing fantastic and it's hard to get the opinion I have about it without people interpreting it as something anti-Sony, as that wasn't my intention in the first place. Sonys been killing it and I expect them to keep killing it.

 

as far as Microsoft releasing a pr if they win npd, yes I expect they would. But seeing as November isn't over it would be a bit confusing to the public if they announce a November 'win' while it isn't even December yet. I think if they did win it they will say something by next Monday, or Tuesday.  

 

 



Halo MCC will sell 5+ million copies(including digital)

halo 5 will sell 10 million copies(including digital)

x1 will pass ps4 in USA, and UK.

KLAMarine on 28 November 2017
Pionner said:
Sony used to comment on every NPD whether they were number 1 or not. Confidently letting it be known if they won the month, leading in software sales, and the hardware sales leader. Ever since the Pro they haven't said anything.

I'd like to get a look at these comments of theirs.



globalisateur on 28 November 2017
SweetTalia said:
how is the S still hovering top 5 in charts hourly? it's been sold out.

Scalpers



Jaxyfoo on 28 November 2017

If that PR had come from Nintendo or Microsoft, I would have took it that they had won. I did last year after their black Friday PR and it turned out Microsoft had lost. I'm guessing it's close enough for everyone to have won.

Also worldwide, I'm not sure the gap will be millions. I think Nintendo at least is popular everywhere. Not to extent of Sony, mainly due to price, but enough to keep competition honest for sales.



Playstation_awaiter on 28 November 2017

Benji saying that there will be meltdowns if his data is the same at other places.