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AngryLittleAlchemist on 21 September 2017
Miyamotoo said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:

But that is part of the reason it's selling.  It's just not the reason why it could potentially sell Wii numbers.

I'm not going to have you just say complete nonsense and then tell me goodbye and have a good day. 

I'll admit though, I don't know verbatim what was in your thread and what was in other threads, because you said similar things on a lot of threads, in fact the only reason you made that thread was because someone was arguing with you on another thread minutes earlier. 

Yes, its part, and my point is thats a part, that isnt only reson why is selling.

Whats exatly complete nonsense that I wrote!?

I used some bad wording in that thread when I made it, and I edited some parts of OP shortly after I made that thread.

I *did* reread your thread when you edited it and there was a bunch of stuff I didn't agree with, so this conversation is not worth continuing. I think it's just obvious that you've downplayed the handheld part quite a bit. It doesn't take a genius to see that. Again, context over just plain words. You have a pattern, tha's all i'm saying. And I watched that pattern develop, so I have a different way of seeing things then if I was just some random reading a thread you had closed. Maybe your opinion is changed though. I'll just leave the conversation like this, with a reply that's not saying you're wrong or i'm right, just a reply saying that's my perspective, and I hope you will too. 



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Miyamotoo on 21 September 2017
AngryLittleAlchemist said:
Miyamotoo said:

Yes, its part, and my point is thats a part, that isnt only reson why is selling.

Whats exatly complete nonsense that I wrote!?

I used some bad wording in that thread when I made it, and I edited some parts of OP shortly after I made that thread.

I *did* reread your thread when you edited it and there was a bunch of stuff I didn't agree with, so this conversation is not worth continuing. I think it's just obvious that you've downplayed the handheld part quite a bit. It doesn't take a genius to see that. Again, context over just plain words. You have a pattern, tha's all i'm saying. And I watched that pattern develop, so I have a different way of seeing things then if I was just some random reading a thread you had closed. Maybe your opinion is changed though. I'll just leave the conversation like this, with a reply that's not saying you're wrong or i'm right, just a reply saying that's my perspective, and I hope you will too. 

Again, my point is same, regardles what opinon you got, "that Switch is not selling just because it's handheld, but because fact that has much bigger value like hybrid of home console and handheld, than it would if its just $300 handheld". OK, maybe you don't agree with me and that's fine, but I agree with you that there is no point continue with this.



Kerotan on 21 September 2017

I'm glad to see most people are finally accepting the Switch as a hybrid rather then putting it as just a handheld or just a home console. It is the succesor to the Wii U and the 3DS, it has the benefit of being both handheld and home console.

I've been making this point since it was revealed but I'm happy to see the majority now concur. Maybe my endless arguing wasn't all in vein.

Obviously you'll get a few people will still try and argue it's just a handheld or just a home console but they're in the minority.



Goodnightmoon on 21 September 2017
Kerotan said:
I'm glad to see most people are finally accepting the Switch as a hybrid rather then putting it as just a handheld or just a home console. It is the succesor to the Wii U and the 3DS, it has the benefit of being both handheld and home console.

I've been making this point since it was revealed but I'm happy to see the majority now concur. Maybe my endless arguing wasn't all in vein.

Obviously you'll get a few people will still try and argue it's just a handheld or just a home console but they're in the minority.

You have been making the point that is an hybrid just to suport your point that it should sell just as much as a Nintendo console and handheld combined to be considered succesful, which is quite absurd.

It is an hybrid, that part alone is pretty much right.



Kerotan on 21 September 2017
Goodnightmoon said:
Kerotan said:
I'm glad to see most people are finally accepting the Switch as a hybrid rather then putting it as just a handheld or just a home console. It is the succesor to the Wii U and the 3DS, it has the benefit of being both handheld and home console.

I've been making this point since it was revealed but I'm happy to see the majority now concur. Maybe my endless arguing wasn't all in vein.

Obviously you'll get a few people will still try and argue it's just a handheld or just a home console but they're in the minority.

You have been making the point that is an hybrid just to suport your point that it should sell just as much as a Nintendo console and handheld combined to be considered succesful, which is quite absurd.

It is an hybrid, that part alone is pretty much right.

So according to you I only think it's a hybrid because I don't want to call it successful?  

 

Breaking news: I've already said it's successful even though it's sales currently lag behind 3DS+Wii U. Next! 



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Goodnightmoon on 21 September 2017
Kerotan said:
Goodnightmoon said:

You have been making the point that is an hybrid just to suport your point that it should sell just as much as a Nintendo console and handheld combined to be considered succesful, which is quite absurd.

It is an hybrid, that part alone is pretty much right.

So according to you I only think it's a hybrid because I don't want to call it successful?  

 

Breaking news: I've already said it's successful even though it's sales currently lag behind 3DS+Wii U. Next! 

I don't know but that argument kind of sounded like that, maybe I'm wrong.



GhaudePhaede010 on 21 September 2017
Miyamotoo said:
GhaudePhaede010 said:

Home console - All processing is in the docked unit (designed to be played in one locale). See: NES, SNES, Nintedo 64, Gamecube, Wii, Wii U.

Hand held - All processing is in the portable unit. Self reliant. See: Game Boy, Game Boy Advance, DS, 3DS, Switch.

Hybrid -  Computational and/or graphical processing split between both the docked unit and the portable station. See: In gaming, nothing exists yet.

 

Switch is no more a hybrid than Wii U. And in case you forgot, nobody called Wii U a hybrid. One day, a real hybrid will be released and people that call Switch a hybrid will realize Switch is a hand held that can be hooked up, conveniently, to a television. How you play your gaming console does not setermine what the console actually is. I have used about a dozen examples of other, real life items to express my point. This topic is so redundant.

A home video game console, or simply home console, is a video game device that is primarily used for home gamers, as opposed to in arcades or some other commercial establishment. Home consoles are one type of video game consoles, in contrast to the handheld game consoles which are smaller and portable, allowing people to carry them and play them at any time or place, along with microconsoles and dedicated consoles.

 

Nobody really called Wii U hybrid because it did not offer full handheld experience, you couldn't go out and play it. But Switch offers full handheld experience and full home console experience, it's basically hybrid of handheld and home console in one devaice, it can be used like real home console or like real handheld.

So...... my 3DS is a home console since I primarily use it at home as opposed to arcades or other commercial establishment? No. Your definition is incorrect.

 

Nobody called Wii U a hybrid because it ISN'T a hybrid. A hybrid does not have to offer a full experience, just a combination for a greater experience than the sum of its separated parts.



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Kerotan on 21 September 2017
Goodnightmoon said:
Kerotan said:

So according to you I only think it's a hybrid because I don't want to call it successful?  

 

Breaking news: I've already said it's successful even though it's sales currently lag behind 3DS+Wii U. Next! 

I don't know but that argument kind of sounded like that, maybe I'm wrong.

Bravo,  you took the hint! xD



Nautilus on 21 September 2017
Kerotan said:
I'm glad to see most people are finally accepting the Switch as a hybrid rather then putting it as just a handheld or just a home console. It is the succesor to the Wii U and the 3DS, it has the benefit of being both handheld and home console.

I've been making this point since it was revealed but I'm happy to see the majority now concur. Maybe my endless arguing wasn't all in vein.

Obviously you'll get a few people will still try and argue it's just a handheld or just a home console but they're in the minority.

Many were already making that argument, though I will agree that the other side are starting to accept tbhat as well.

Now, how much it has to sell is an entirely different thing and not at all related that the Switch is the successor to both consoles.



My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.

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Lawlight on 21 September 2017
tbone51 said:
Lawlight said:

 Neogaf has a post on the first page with the openings.

Ok so go and look at it again smh. This game opened better than a couple others and its in line with some of the regular releases. Its also a remake not a new line game. Other M opened up at 44k so your math is wrong too

(30000 / 44000) * 100 = 68% = opened at less than 70% of Other M's opening.

Please point out how my match is incorrect.