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I amount of stamina you people have to argue about the same thing over and over again.



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VGPolyglot said:
leyendax69 said:

Why am I not surprised at how this turned out? Emulation exists and is useful to preserve games once hardware is not sold anymore. Anti-emulation white knights should stay away from these threads as they are not contributing anything.

OT: I'm personally more interested in future PS4 emulation, but this is pretty sweet too, especially if it's a game like Persona 5.

Leyendax 

o_o



leyendax69 said:
VGPolyglot said:

Leyendax 

o_o

I guess you're still not entirely adjusted to me yet



leyendax69 said:

Why am I not surprised at how this turned out? Emulation exists and is useful to preserve games once hardware is not sold anymore. Anti-emulation white knights should stay away from these threads as they are not contributing anything.

OT: I'm personally more interested in future PS4 emulation, but this is pretty sweet too, especially if it's a game like Persona 5.

I agree that emulation is a good tool to preserve, but I'm also pretty sure that PS3 games aren't fading into obscurity any time soon. It turns out this way everytime because the threads aren't about unique MAME emulators that run rare arcade ROMs. They're about emulating current/recent generation console exclusive games, which many fans of said consoles interpret as a backhanded "Here's why you don't need [Insert Console Here]".



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Azuren said:

I agree that emulation is a good tool to preserve, but I'm also pretty sure that PS3 games aren't fading into obscurity any time soon. It turns out this way everytime because the threads aren't about unique MAME emulators that run rare arcade ROMs. They're about emulating current/recent generation console exclusive games, which many fans of said consoles interpret as a backhanded "Here's why you don't need [Insert Console Here]".

You are right about that, but they eventually will and the sooner most games are easy to emulate the better. I agree that people advertising it so others don't buy current games are in the wrong, but you can't generalize everyone. Some are just excited for what I said in my previous comment, or simply to replay the game with better graphics..

This is old and you heard it before already, many people who emulate without buying the game legally first, weren't going to do it anyways, so does it really matter that much? they don't care about the companies behind games or the market in general, you shouldn't care about those people. Emulation shouldn't cease because of them



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leyendax69 said:
Azuren said:

I agree that emulation is a good tool to preserve, but I'm also pretty sure that PS3 games aren't fading into obscurity any time soon. It turns out this way everytime because the threads aren't about unique MAME emulators that run rare arcade ROMs. They're about emulating current/recent generation console exclusive games, which many fans of said consoles interpret as a backhanded "Here's why you don't need [Insert Console Here]".

You are right about that, but they eventually will and the sooner most games are easy to emulate the better. I agree that people advertising it so others don't buy current games are in the wrong, but you can't generalize everyone. Some are just excited for what I said in my previous comment, or simply to replay the game with better graphics..

This is old and you heard it before already, many people who emulate without buying the game legally first, weren't going to do it anyways, so does it really matter that much? they don't care about the companies behind games or the market in general, you shouldn't care about those people. Emulation shouldn't cease because of them

I don't like to generalize, but I don't ignore what the majority does. And emulators are used most often to freely play games someone doesn't own. Yes, emulators should be made for when the console fades away, but to say it needs to be ready before the console leaves? I feel working builds shouldn't be released to the public until the console itself has been discontinued.

 

"I wasn't going to buy it anyway" doesn't really hold up as an argument. Software is weird in that people can pour months of their lives into a digital little something. The disc isn't the game, the code is. In this sense, the code is the car that was manufactured. It's the cake that was baked. It's the fruits of their labor. Does it cost them anything when someone plays their game for free? Well, no. But is it fair that someone just ignores the work put into the game (nevermind the laws protecting it) and doesn't give credit where it's due? Game studios do continue making money on the game after it goes on the market- they weren't paid a flat rate. They get bonuses and whatnot, and that depends on how the game sells. And honestly, I've seen what game development can do to someone and their family. It's intense, and they really do need to get as much as they can for that work.

 

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Gonna be honest, I misread the second paragraph as supporting the "wasn't gonna buy it anyway" argument, but had written all this already. Consider my second paragraph a PSA, not directed at you.

 

And I agree that emulation has a place that shouldn't be compromised by punks. I feel the losers who take things they don't pay for should pay through the nose in piracy fines to make examples of them. Without the kids who do mental gymnastics to defend taking someone else's work for free, emulation is a legitimate thing that is really important. But for every person like you who is concerned about keeping emulators as tools to enhance games they own, there's a hundred cunts who just want a game without having to buy the game and/or the console it's on.



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leyendax69 said:

Why am I not surprised at how this turned out? Emulation exists and is useful to preserve games once hardware is not sold anymore. Anti-emulation white knights should stay away from these threads as they are not contributing anything.

OT: I'm personally more interested in future PS4 emulation, but this is pretty sweet too, especially if it's a game like Persona 5.

Virtually every console game ever made is still perfectly playable on the original hardware to this day. Claiming that it's to preserve games is just a weak rationalization for theft. PS4 games already exist in digital format anyway, so there's absolutely no need to "save them" via piracy. Do steam games need to be ""saved" too?



Good, now our next target should be the either the Vita (I can see the games for this one fading into obscurity pretty quickly) or the Switch ...



fatslob-:O said:
Good, now our next target should be the either the Vita (I can see the games for this one fading into obscurity pretty quickly) or the Switch ...

What games? ;)



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Cerebralbore101 said:

Virtually every console game ever made is still perfectly playable on the original hardware to this day. Claiming that it's to preserve games is just a weak rationalization for theft. PS4 games already exist in digital format anyway, so there's absolutely no need to "save them" via piracy. Do steam games need to be ""saved" too?

Just bad argument ... 

What do you do when the said physical copies of the game are non-functional and what do you do when digital copies aren't being distributed anymore ? 

Just because there exists a digital format that is legally distributed is not a guarantee their propogation and neither should we assume that hardware lifespan is infinite either so emulation is an absolute necessity to experience those content and maybe piracy too ... (What do we do if there's no legal copies in circulation left ?)

And steam games absolutely need to be saved in case Valve Corporation's servers shutdown ... (How are we going to redownload the games we deleted before too ?)