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Hynad said:
bigtakilla said:

Because Stone Cold says so?....

We're using our memory, and we all don't remember it the way you think you do.

Okay, *edit*  I'm sure memories are a fair and accurate representation of the worlds interest of a trailer, they just aren't admissable in court. I'm bringing up facts of events that happened.



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bigtakilla said:

I don't see how. If no one cared then why would it be an issue if it weren't localized, and why did it become the cornerstone of Op Rainfall?

*Edit* I mean, so we're both clear, that everyone was like screw that game who cares. Then Nintendo said we aren't going to localize it and people were dying for it? That literally makes no sense. 

Are you trying to just be awkward? People started following the game heavily long after the first trailer it's not hard to grasp it was only after the Japanese release when interest started to take shape, Rainfall began two years after the first trailer had even aired and the trailer didn't trigger the event NOA not wanting to release the game despite it being localized is what did that the first trailer doesn't even factor into Rainfall at all.



Wyrdness said:
bigtakilla said:

I don't see how. If no one cared then why would it be an issue if it weren't localized, and why did it become the cornerstone of Op Rainfall?

*Edit* I mean, so we're both clear, that everyone was like screw that game who cares. Then Nintendo said we aren't going to localize it and people were dying for it? That literally makes no sense. 

Are you trying to just be awkward? People started following the game heavily long after the first trailer it's not hard to grasp it was only after the Japanese release when interest started to take shape, Rainfall began two years after the first trailer had even aired and the trailer didn't trigger the event NOA not wanting to release the game despite it being localized is what did that the first trailer doesn't even factor into Rainfall at all.

people started following the game in 2009. I got two examples right here. There was definitely hype. Did it go under the radar for some sure, but that doesn't mean there wasn't an extreme amount of hype from people who kept track and noticed the game was being brought to EU and other areas and not the states. 

*edit* Now, was it introduced to the masses after the trailer (or far more heavily known after rainfall) sure, but saying there is no hype, then BAM there was is not accurate.



bigtakilla said:
Wyrdness said:

Are you trying to just be awkward? People started following the game heavily long after the first trailer it's not hard to grasp it was only after the Japanese release when interest started to take shape, Rainfall began two years after the first trailer had even aired and the trailer didn't trigger the event NOA not wanting to release the game despite it being localized is what did that the first trailer doesn't even factor into Rainfall at all.

people started following the game in 2009. I got two examples right here. There was definitely hype. Did it go under the radar for some sure, but that doesn't mean there wasn't an extreme amount of hype from people who kept track and noticed the game was being brought to EU and other areas and not the states. 

*edit* Now, was it introduced to the masses after the trailer (or far more heavily known after rainfall) sure, but saying there is no hype, then BAM there was is not accurate.

No you haven't got 2 examples you've only got background on Rainfall which was 2 years after the trailer, right now you literally are lying to the point that your very own edited flat out back tracks and admits what we're saying is correct, if the masses only began following it much much later then it means the was no hype with that trailer like we're saying.

A few people following the game at that point is not hype before you try to spin that.



Wyrdness said:
bigtakilla said:

people started following the game in 2009. I got two examples right here. There was definitely hype. Did it go under the radar for some sure, but that doesn't mean there wasn't an extreme amount of hype from people who kept track and noticed the game was being brought to EU and other areas and not the states. 

*edit* Now, was it introduced to the masses after the trailer (or far more heavily known after rainfall) sure, but saying there is no hype, then BAM there was is not accurate.

No you haven't got 2 examples you've only got background on Rainfall which was 2 years after the trailer, right now you literally are lying to the point that your very own edited flat out back tracks and admits what we're saying is correct, if the masses only began following it much much later then it means the was no hype with that trailer like we're saying.

A few people following the game at that point is not hype before you try to spin that.

The two examples are you and me, lol. For this seemingly small amount of people there are two right here and now. And bringing it out to the masses through Op Rainfall doesn't mean there wasn't hype around this game either, lol. It just brought it to more people.



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bigtakilla said:
Wyrdness said:

Are you trying to just be awkward? People started following the game heavily long after the first trailer it's not hard to grasp it was only after the Japanese release when interest started to take shape, Rainfall began two years after the first trailer had even aired and the trailer didn't trigger the event NOA not wanting to release the game despite it being localized is what did that the first trailer doesn't even factor into Rainfall at all.

people started following the game in 2009. I got two examples right here. There was definitely hype. Did it go under the radar for some sure, but that doesn't mean there wasn't an extreme amount of hype from people who kept track and noticed the game was being brought to EU and other areas and not the states. 

*edit* Now, was it introduced to the masses after the trailer (or far more heavily known after rainfall) sure, but saying there is no hype, then BAM there was is not accurate.

Wow man, seriously.  There were other trailers after the first.  The game was praised and acclaimed upon release in Japan.  New trailers and gameplay videos showed up in the lead to the EU release.  Is it so hard to grasp that the first trailer had zero impact and then subsequent events built it up?  This has happened with many games.

And have you even LOOKED at the debut trailer?  It's profoundly...underwhelming. 



Nuvendil said:
bigtakilla said:

people started following the game in 2009. I got two examples right here. There was definitely hype. Did it go under the radar for some sure, but that doesn't mean there wasn't an extreme amount of hype from people who kept track and noticed the game was being brought to EU and other areas and not the states. 

*edit* Now, was it introduced to the masses after the trailer (or far more heavily known after rainfall) sure, but saying there is no hype, then BAM there was is not accurate.

Wow man, seriously.  There were other trailers after the first.  The game was praised and acclaimed upon release in Japan.  New trailers and gameplay videos showed up in the lead to the EU release.  Is it so hard to grasp that the first trailer had zero impact and then subsequent events built it up?  This has happened with many games.

And have you even LOOKED at the debut trailer?  It's profoundly...underwhelming. 

Is it so hard to grasp that there were people who were hyped about this game even from the first trailer. Look at the first trailer for Xenoblade X, looks pretty unimpressive especially for the subsequent trailers, still so much hype!



bigtakilla said:
Nuvendil said:

Wow man, seriously.  There were other trailers after the first.  The game was praised and acclaimed upon release in Japan.  New trailers and gameplay videos showed up in the lead to the EU release.  Is it so hard to grasp that the first trailer had zero impact and then subsequent events built it up?  This has happened with many games.

And have you even LOOKED at the debut trailer?  It's profoundly...underwhelming. 

Is it so hard to grasp that there were people who were hyped about this game even from the first trailer. Look at the first trailer for Xenoblade X, looks pretty unimpressive especially for the subsequent trailers, still so much hype!

Oh don't even COMPARE the two!  XCX's first trailer was technically very impressive, showed immense scale, and did a 1000% better job at showing off its features, and had a far better trailer musical track and better video editing.  

And what is even the point of this big argument?  You're trying to argue the early trailers were big deals for XC while the first trailer for XC2 by pointing out it excited at the very least some people?  How is that evidence of any such superiority when the same can be said of the first trailer for XC2?  Like, what even is the point of this discussion?  



curl-6 said:
Nuvendil said:

I do have to disagree with you pretty staunchly on the first trailer.  Not because of my feelings, but because it actually had the furthest reach of any trailer the franchise has had, currently with over 2 million views.   Regardless of what we think individually, the first trailer had a good impact.  The second trailer was weaker, I'll give you that.

But this whole "dime-a-dozen JRPG" narratuve has had me scratching my head for ages.  I've looked at trailers for a ton of JRPGs and if the first trailer was what the average one looked like, I would be more into the genre :P

The first trailer I think was inflated due to being part of the big Switch reveal which was probably the highest profile Nintendo event ever in terms of online exposure.

XB2's trailers so far look to me like they could've been from pretty much any run-of-the-mill JRPG from the past 5 years or so. Aside from the awesome music, nothing really makes it stand out.

Well the second trailer could have been overshadowed by say Mario, or Metroid news, ect.

You ahve to remember that as popular as Xenoblade may seem, it is still a niche game. It's not a Final Fantasy. Hell it's not even a Fire Emblem. Maybe a fire emblem before Awakening, but not the now newly hit status Fire Emblem has achieved. xenoblade has not reached the masses yet.

bigtakilla said:
Nuvendil said:

Wow man, seriously.  There were other trailers after the first.  The game was praised and acclaimed upon release in Japan.  New trailers and gameplay videos showed up in the lead to the EU release.  Is it so hard to grasp that the first trailer had zero impact and then subsequent events built it up?  This has happened with many games.

And have you even LOOKED at the debut trailer?  It's profoundly...underwhelming. 

Is it so hard to grasp that there were people who were hyped about this game even from the first trailer. Look at the first trailer for Xenoblade X, looks pretty unimpressive especially for the subsequent trailers, still so much hype!

There probably were some people hyped. Key word SOME. That first trailer would not have reached million views on youtube today if it released. It would be looked at as some mediocre rpg.

XCX and XC2 trailers, even their worst are 1000x more hyped than Xenoblades first trailer.

It was not it's trailer that got Operation Rainfall. Operation Rainfall was due to 3 RPG's being skipped at coming over. We were in dire want of RPG's and NOA of skipping those three. This was also 2 years AFTER the trailer that it started. I don't know when Xenoblade released in Japan, but I feel like it was before Rainfall started. I seem to recall during the most of rainfall campaign if not the entirety that people wanted Xenoblade badly becuase of how awesome the game WAS, not how awesome it looked. Meaning it was out.

Looking up online, the game was released in japan in JUNE 2010.

So 1 year after a game came out, an operation was started in order to localize it. I woudl say without a doubt the desire for that game would be  based on consumer reviews/critic reviews over a trailer.



irstupid said:
curl-6 said:

The first trailer I think was inflated due to being part of the big Switch reveal which was probably the highest profile Nintendo event ever in terms of online exposure.

XB2's trailers so far look to me like they could've been from pretty much any run-of-the-mill JRPG from the past 5 years or so. Aside from the awesome music, nothing really makes it stand out.

Well the second trailer could have been overshadowed by say Mario, or Metroid news, ect.

You ahve to remember that as popular as Xenoblade may seem, it is still a niche game. It's not a Final Fantasy. Hell it's not even a Fire Emblem. Maybe a fire emblem before Awakening, but not the now newly hit status Fire Emblem has achieved. xenoblade has not reached the masses yet.

bigtakilla said:

Is it so hard to grasp that there were people who were hyped about this game even from the first trailer. Look at the first trailer for Xenoblade X, looks pretty unimpressive especially for the subsequent trailers, still so much hype!

There probably were some people hyped. Key word SOME. That first trailer would not have reached million views on youtube today if it released. It would be looked at as some mediocre rpg.

XCX and XC2 trailers, even their worst are 1000x more hyped than Xenoblades first trailer.

It was not it's trailer that got Operation Rainfall. Operation Rainfall was due to 3 RPG's being skipped at coming over. We were in dire want of RPG's and NOA of skipping those three. This was also 2 years AFTER the trailer that it started. I don't know when Xenoblade released in Japan, but I feel like it was before Rainfall started. I seem to recall during the most of rainfall campaign if not the entirety that people wanted Xenoblade badly becuase of how awesome the game WAS, not how awesome it looked. Meaning it was out.

Looking up online, the game was released in japan in JUNE 2010.

So 1 year after a game came out, an operation was started in order to localize it. I woudl say without a doubt the desire for that game would be  based on consumer reviews/critic reviews over a trailer.

Well essentially you have to look at the audience it played to. Wii owners that were into jrpgs. That crowd was hyped, but how big is the jrpg crowd to begin with? 

Then there's the normal boost subsequent trailers that are more refined brings. Heck, look how much attention it gained AFTER release, but is anyone going to say there was no hype prior to them selling $100 used copies. There was always an audience hyped.