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Zach808 said:
Now I'm a bit worried. I'm hoping my 1070 will be able to handle this game at 1440p 60, but things are looking grim...

Unless they fuck up really hard it should be. Depending how tolerant you are on frame drops below 60.



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Johnw1104 said:

That's not unreasonable.

I must confess and admit that a few months ago I splurged for the first time on a top-of-the-line gpu in the Titan (up until now I've generally aimed for the best cost-to-performance ratio). A gross waste of money as all top tier hardware always is (especially gpu's, which age faster than other parts), but it was clear from testing videos and such that the bar for 4k and the better HTC Vive VR experiences was exceedingly high. The Titan was the only gpu that was able to handle both with consistency.

In my experience, even the 1080ti here can struggle at times to maintain 4k settings. 4k gaming is really still in its infancy, and is exceedingly expensive. I think the compromised "4k" we see in the PS4 Pro and Scorpio might have convinced people that it's easier to achieve and out to be cheaper. Thankfully, in just a couple years my grossly expensive gpu will be worth very little and 4k will be far more accessible at cheaper costs, but for now it's mostly out of reach.

*Edit* I should clarify that I'm assuming you wish to keep the settings as maximized as possible, rather than sacrificing most of them to achieve resolution. Many games can hit 4k if you're willing to turn all of those various, resource-hogging settings down, but I often find I prefer many of them to better resolution.

Good points. The problem with these kinds of threads is that it equates PC and console versions. It's conveniently ignored that PC uses higher quality assets and more complex rendering such as lighting. PC also uses actual 4k and actual 60fps.

All in all this means that PC versions are several times more demanding. If you consider that you have to stitch 3 PS4 Pros together to reach the performance of a 1080ti it puts the $800 price into perspective.



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Hmm i dont have a Ti however i do run a 1080 paired with an i7700k. Ill try to run it at 4k however i dont expect 60. 30 frames will be alright.



CGI-Quality said:
Zekkyou said:

Which mods exactly are "cheering this on"?

Curiosity activated! It was an unnecessary comment, but he said mod(s). So now he has to tell any mod who posted in here to spare him the wrath!

I'm ready to take this over to the mod thread. Which I already did.



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Bristow9091 said:
I'm more concerned about that HDD space than the graphics card! :o

Yeah that's my biggest issue with 4K gaming. I fear the idea that next gen games will be 4K we litterally could have 500 GB 4K games, fun downloading them :s.






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konnichiwa said:
Bristow9091 said:
I'm more concerned about that HDD space than the graphics card! :o

Yeah that's my biggest issue with 4K gaming. I fear the idea that next gen games will be 4K we litterally could have 500 GB 4K games, fun downloading them :s.

Maybe not 500GB but 200GB could become a norm. But internet is getting faster too and there will always be options to preload. The bigger problem I'm seeing is cheap console manufacturers omitting SSDs in their next consoles. As if load times aren't horrible enough right now.



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vivster said:
Johnw1104 said:

That's not unreasonable.

I must confess and admit that a few months ago I splurged for the first time on a top-of-the-line gpu in the Titan (up until now I've generally aimed for the best cost-to-performance ratio). A gross waste of money as all top tier hardware always is (especially gpu's, which age faster than other parts), but it was clear from testing videos and such that the bar for 4k and the better HTC Vive VR experiences was exceedingly high. The Titan was the only gpu that was able to handle both with consistency.

In my experience, even the 1080ti here can struggle at times to maintain 4k settings. 4k gaming is really still in its infancy, and is exceedingly expensive. I think the compromised "4k" we see in the PS4 Pro and Scorpio might have convinced people that it's easier to achieve and out to be cheaper. Thankfully, in just a couple years my grossly expensive gpu will be worth very little and 4k will be far more accessible at cheaper costs, but for now it's mostly out of reach.

*Edit* I should clarify that I'm assuming you wish to keep the settings as maximized as possible, rather than sacrificing most of them to achieve resolution. Many games can hit 4k if you're willing to turn all of those various, resource-hogging settings down, but I often find I prefer many of them to better resolution.

Good points. The problem with these kinds of threads is that it equates PC and console versions. It's conveniently ignored that PC uses higher quality assets and more complex rendering such as lighting. PC also uses actual 4k and actual 60fps.

All in all this means that PC versions are several times more demanding. If you consider that you have to stitch 3 PS4 Pros together to reach the performance of a 1080ti it puts the $800 price into perspective.

Yeah, it's always frustrating when you go all in on top tier hardware and the game still recommends lower than maximum settings lol... once you look under the advanced tab, though, it almost always becomes very obvious why you can't usually slide every slider all the way to the right. 

Otherwise, I think the confusion about 4k is due (first and obviously) to most console gamers not also having a decked out PC, but also the clever marketing of Sony and Microsoft have people thinking that 4k is attainable in the $400-500 range, when in reality it's an exceptionally compromised (if still great-looking) 4k experience. Really, with these console versions I'd generally prefer rame rates and whatever additional assets/rendering they can include over the semi-4k resolution... I prefer consoles for some genres and like playing with my friends on them as well, so I hope they make the option available to choose between a better running 1080p and the "sort of" 4k option in most games.



konnichiwa said:
Bristow9091 said:
I'm more concerned about that HDD space than the graphics card! :o

Yeah that's my biggest issue with 4K gaming. I fear the idea that next gen games will be 4K we litterally could have 500 GB 4K games, fun downloading them :s.

lol I think 500gb games are still a ways off, but I very much expect to have my first ~150-200gb game in the few years... I suppose it depends on whether DLC, patches, and/or mods are included.

I know some games, like Halo 5, have already topped 100gb with patches included. Thankfully, even SSD of 1TB or larger are becoming more affordable, so hopefully we can keep up and avoid having to reinstall too often lol



Ruler said:

I mean official 60fps support out of the gate. I think its strange that they dont show 60fps in their trailer

Except the trailer I linked shows it at 4k 60fps and the game settings screenshot even sports a 60fps option...



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deskpro2k3 said:
This is all you need to know

Gameworks:

puts your nVidia cards in danger

rekts your AMD card.

DOn't use the options?.

I stopped using TXAA in GTA V because they claimed it would do away with the jags, but not cost as much as MSAA, yet you still need to have 2X MSAA enabled to make it work. HBAO+ asks for that bit more power in games like FF XIV, but it's not a massive difference to tank performance, visually it's not that much different either.

We'll soon see how AMD cards manage the game with gameworks turned on vs off.



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