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I see the alt-right devolving into extreme homegrown terror the likes of ISIS very soon. The war chants have been too loud now. Youtube's got a nasty case of it. They're all about free speech, except when it's in opposition to them.



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That's a terrible news. I hope the guy that drove the cat gets some serious prison time and help.



 

 



CGI-Quality said:
ratuscafoarterea said:

Yes, and who's to say that those replacing the whites will vote democratic? By your logic, Obama shouldn't have been voted in 2008 ... cuz OMG, so many whites in 2008. Also, all of this racist talk and blaming, is being pushed by BLM, and blacks are a declining demographic.

Help me understand what this means.

Let me put it on my gypsy English ....

blacks don't make enough babies ….. their numbers are in decline …



RJ_Sizzle said:
I see the alt-right devolving into extreme homegrown terror the likes of ISIS very soon. The war chants have been too loud now. Youtube's got a nasty case of it. They're all about free speech, except when it's in opposition to them.

Good. Let them be exposed for the ugly cancer they are, then some people are going to have to make some decisions on what they actually believe. 



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Soundwave said:
o_O.Q said:

 

"Black people didn't gain rights in this country by politely changing the minds of racists in debate time. "

 

no... white people did initially and then black people when they gained a higher position in society... or are you trying to say that black people gained freedom from a weaker position through violence and aggression?

 

"The real world is about conflict and struggle actually, that's how things get done."

 

meaning what? what is your proposed solution?

Yes, some of the civil rights movement was aggressive. Most of it required courage and bravery to stand up against yelling mobs that didn't want black people in schools or on buses. 

Against racism I don't think there is any singular magic bullet solution. It's a problem for society and will continue to be for the duration of our short time span on Earth. Things change, but it doesn't mean it happens on our schedule. I think in 100-200 years the concept of race will be rendered moot because of genetic engineering (ie: every parent will be able to select every physical trait of their child if they want, over time this will forever alter the human race). 

All I'm saying is life is not debate class. That is a notion of someone who probably has spent most of their life in a class room (I don't say that as an insult just a matter of fact, we have all been young and naive at some point). Read any history book and find me periods of human history where massive change occured on the back of a debate. 

 

my point was that beliefs and mindsets change through dialogue primarily in our current era and yes alternatively they are changed through violence, but that leads me to asking as i did before - what violent methods are you advoctaing to be used against white supremacists?

 

if you aren't advocting for violence against white supremacists, what options are you left with?



ratuscafoarterea said:
CGI-Quality said:

Help me understand what this means.

Let me put it on my gypsy English ....

blacks don't make enough babies ….. their numbers are in decline …

LOL.

Actually, blacks are increasing in proportion (though, only slightly) of the population. Non-hispanic whites are the only population group in decline (and even then, their raw numbers are still increasing).



Made a bet with LipeJJ and HylianYoshi that the XB1 will reach 30 million before Wii U reaches 15 million. Loser has to get avatar picked by winner for 6 months (or if I lose, either 6 months avatar control for both Lipe and Hylian, or my patrick avatar comes back forever).

Soundwave said:
Nymeria said:
People have increasingly fallen into echo chambers dehumanizing each other polarizing discourse. It sadly doesn't surprise me to see violence or even murder when these groups intersect. All one has to do is look at the lens of how this protest/anti protest is covered in outlets to see the disparate realities we inhabit.

What point in history did KKK/NeoNazi members not exist in a disparate reality? People need to stop acting like this is something new. It's not, it was just convienant and felt warm and fuzzy to pretend it was gone rather than face up the fact that this ugliness is still here and has been there. 

It will take another 100-200 years for it to really shift things to where they really ought to be, probably because by then genetic engineering of humans will render concepts like ethnic identity almost moot (that's another can of worms, but it does show the futiliy of "racial purists" ... they are on a bus headed off a cliff, they're just too stupid to see it coming). 

I never said it was new.  

It is cultivated when people have worldviews reinforced.  You will likely always have a certain percentage of extremists, but as a society you can foster discussion that dulls or reduces it, or you can stoke and strengthen it.  I think modern media has pushed for the latter over the former for profits.



CGI-Quality said:
ratuscafoarterea said:

Let me put it on my gypsy English ....

blacks don't make enough babies ….. their numbers are in decline …

From where I'm sitting, this sounds offensive...

I don't know if the post is offensive in the sense, but the information is wrong.



Made a bet with LipeJJ and HylianYoshi that the XB1 will reach 30 million before Wii U reaches 15 million. Loser has to get avatar picked by winner for 6 months (or if I lose, either 6 months avatar control for both Lipe and Hylian, or my patrick avatar comes back forever).