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Forums - Politics - White Supremacist Drives Car into Counter-Protesters (20 Injured, One Dead)

DarthMetalliCube on 12 August 2017
Aeolus451 said:
That guy driving into people is messed up to no end. I wish things wouldn't go that far.

On the protesters, I don't care for antifa or white supremacists so they can have it all they want.

Pretty much. Let the extremist idiots weaken each other enough so maybe reason can finally be the dominant voice again. They deserve eachother.



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barneystinson69 on 12 August 2017
Lafiel said:
barneystinson69 said:

Unfortunently, BLM still has people who take part in violence and openly hate white people (why I can't support it). Neither group should exist in any fabric... but I hope America realizes that eventually.

Canada has people who take part in violence and openly hate people > Canada shouldn't exist ?

Right. Because we have KKK protesters causing violence in Canada, while seeing crazy people ram cars into crowds. The comparison totally holds up...



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Soundwave on 12 August 2017
Aeolus451 said:
Soundwave said:

There are enough people who quietly share these views to give him a healthy voter bloc, and lets not forget he lost the popular vote and barely eeked out victories in swing states, so every voter bloc matters. 

He will only acknowledge this as a terrorist attack if he is pressured into doing so, right now he would like to have this situation probably go away. Diet (wink wink/hush hush) racism works well for him, but when racism is shown it's full force, people realize how ugly it is and no one wants to be associated with *that* kind of racism. 

Playing the "all sides" card lets him tip toe the line while winking at white supremasists "see? I'm your guy, I didn't directly condemn you guys, it's all sides". The language is deliberate. Now there may come a point where he is eventually shamed into saying what he should say now as a leader, but likely he's hoping right now that this just blows over so he doesn't have to. 

What are you on about? If any of that crap was true, obama wouldn't have gotten into office twice. Trump has been speaking against the actions of that nutjob and the protestors in general. You're just trying to lump trump in with white supremacists while this a hot topic.

Oh I'm sure plenty of people voted againast Obama because he was black. The demographics of the country are shifting which is partly what allowed Obama to be elected twice. Trump was able to lose the popular vote but take advantge of weaknesses in Clinton as a candidate to eek out 77,000 or so votes to sneak into the presidency, but likely against a more competent/likable candidate he would've been thrashed and those demographics will continue to shift against the favor of such a candidate. 

Republican party cannot run on these ideals forever, Trump in a lot of ways is the dying last gasp of such politics in the US. 



Nymeria on 12 August 2017

People have increasingly fallen into echo chambers dehumanizing each other polarizing discourse. It sadly doesn't surprise me to see violence or even murder when these groups intersect. All one has to do is look at the lens of how this protest/anti protest is covered in outlets to see the disparate realities we inhabit.



AlfredoTurkey on 12 August 2017
monocle_layton said:
Ka-pi96 said:
Why? Just why? I have a hard time imagining even punching someone, let alone driving a car in to a whole crowd of people.

it's acceptable for these racist pieces of shit to kill others because they realize they're nothing more than retarded pussies. They don't have facts to support themselves, so they just go ahead and hurt others.

Seeing this happen in America is sickening. I hope the dude gets a life sentence for this. He could've killed many more people - thank god it wasn't more than one person. 

 

They talk about free speech, but at the end of the day at least the "super evil" SJW's won't kill you if you disagree with them : 

Considering the prison system is mostly made up of black people, this guy should have a hell of a time in jail... for about 3 months. He'll be murdered very quickly. 



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barneystinson69 on 12 August 2017
Soundwave said:
Aeolus451 said:

What are you on about? If any of that crap was true, obama wouldn't have gotten into office twice. Trump has been speaking against the actions of that nutjob and the protestors in general. You're just trying to lump trump in with white supremacists while this a hot topic.

Oh I'm sure plenty of people voted againast Obama because he was black. The demographics of the country are shifting which is partly what allowed Obama to be elected twice. Trump was able to lose the popular vote but take advantge of weaknesses in Clinton as a candidate to eek out 77,000 or so votes to sneak into the presidency, but likely against a more competent/likable candidate he would've been thrashed and those demographics will continue to shift against the favor of such a candidate. 

Republican party cannot run on these ideals forever, Trump in a lot of ways is the dying last gasp of such politics in the US. 

Clinton won the PV because of one state that disliked him. You could take California, Texas, Florida, Pennsylvania and Ohio out of the country (4 of the 5 Trump states), and have him win the PV. I think you underestimate his support (he also got more hispanics than Romney, and more black voters as well, while doing slightly worse with whites).



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AlfredoTurkey on 12 August 2017
Soundwave said:
Aeolus451 said:

What are you on about? If any of that crap was true, obama wouldn't have gotten into office twice. Trump has been speaking against the actions of that nutjob and the protestors in general. You're just trying to lump trump in with white supremacists while this a hot topic.

Oh I'm sure plenty of people voted againast Obama because he was black. The demographics of the country are shifting which is partly what allowed Obama to be elected twice. Trump was able to lose the popular vote but take advantge of weaknesses in Clinton as a candidate to eek out 77,000 or so votes to sneak into the presidency, but likely against a more competent/likable candidate he would've been thrashed and those demographics will continue to shift against the favor of such a candidate. 

Republican party cannot run on these ideals forever, Trump in a lot of ways is the dying last gasp of such politics in the US. 

No, the only reason Trump "won" is because more than half of our population didn't vote.



Lafiel on 12 August 2017
NATO said:

I am saying that modern media seem more than happy these days to lump the blame on "white people" as a generalized group, and whether or not doing so is justified makes little difference, the end result is the same, most people would just roll their eyes and move on, but radicalized people such as white supremacists do not, thus the media perpetuates the rift between races.

white supremacists would take literally "ANYTHING", even a black child kindly giving a white child a lollypop, as a huge affront and a sign that black rule is near !!!

and they absolutely will find a way to spread their hateful message to escalate racial tensions, as long as you "good people" are doing nothing

you are trying the appeasement route that has failed and failed and failed again throughout history - what is the definition of insanity?



NATO on 12 August 2017

 

 



DarthMetalliCube on 12 August 2017
Lafiel said:
Soundwave said:

There's nothing "to see coming". There's been white supremasists for a long time, hate to say it but "moderate liberals" are very good at convincing themselves that there is no problem and it doesn't exist. 

No sometimes in life there's a thing called conflict, and it requires action. Not everything is a bed of roses.

ology. 

"moderate liberal" in the US is code for going along with every far-right thing the GOP proposes in order to "moderate"

Well, yes, I suppose to a far leftist/authoritarian, everything that isn't far left is obviously considered "right" relatively speaking..

Not saying you are, but based off this completely unreasonable response, what else can I conclude?

I just have this *crazy* notion of seeing people as individuals and forming my own opinions on everything on a case by case basis rather than merely conforming to the group in what I'm "supposed to" believe..



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