Ka-pi96 said:
atma998 said:
The problem is when I take them, like for example adding Uncharted to the graph, some people are complaining it should not be in there.
Bad if you do bad if you don't I guess. I can only conclude that I cannot please everyone. That's a thing, I can live with this. But people being overly agressive just because the analysis is not 100% as they would like it to do...wow, just wow! Some people should get a life, truely. We are just discussing about trending in sales of some videogame should I remind.
Should I remind also that no one suggested a better graph with specific franchises to include that actually share the same genre as a TPS. No one. Clearly easier just to complain.
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Ok, you want some constructive criticism? Here you go...
You really need to define third-person shooter, and include all games that fit that definition. People may criticise your definition still, but at least if they say "why wasn't x game included" you can point to it and say "because it didn't meet these criteria". As it is you seem to be trying to say some games weren't included because "they aren't primarily a third-person shooter", yet at the same time include games that aren't primarily third-person shooters, but you don't even say what makes something primarily a third-person shooter. I think it's fair to say Resident Evil (survival horror), Mass Effect (RPG) & Metal Gear Solid (Stealth) aren't primarily third-person shooters, so if they are included why can't other games that share genres such as Grand Theft Auto & Tomb Raider be included?
Games shouldn't have to be part of long running franchises to be included. If you really want to show how a whole genre is performing sales wise then both one off games and new IPs which haven't yet received sequels should be there too. Where's Splatoon? The Division?
Perhaps the most important thing, which somebody else already mentioned is that your x axis really should be release years or something. As it is you've got games that released over a decade apart on the same point of the axis, so clearly that's not showing how the genre is trending over time.
And finally your conclusion doesn't match the data you're presenting. You're not looking at the genre overall or at how it has fared over time. All that you're showing is that some franchises have peaked and are now declining, while one (MGS) is fairly steady and another (Uncharted) is still showing growth. There's neither enough data there or a good enough presentation of data to try to analyse anything about the genre as a whole.
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Fair enough. First of all thanks for explaning all this without the condescending tone or acting like an ass.
As I said, the main issue with my thread is the title, I should have said "How are the major franchises with a third-person perspective are trending". My graph had two objectives 1- Looking at the trending of the major TP franchises and 2- Looking at trending of the whole TPS genre. While it did worked well on the FPS side (first thread was received positively overall), the same formula did not worked well for TPS as some others said the TPS main franchises (or third-person perspective games if you prefer) offer a wide variety of different gameplay and thus, cannot be compared one to another sales wise.
That said, I'm still convinced that the whole shooter genre is not doing as good as it did 5 or 10 years ago. Gears of War, Mass Effect, Halo, Call of Duty shows signifiant decline in sales while Battlefield is steady. Sure there are new IPs doing great but they are only a small % of the market.