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SpokenTruth said:
bigtakilla said:

Sure.

Apparently not.  Because that Supreme Court decision made the The Flag Protection Act of 1989 and all other state and local laws unconstitutional and therefore unenforceable.   All of those laws are still on those books but they mean absolutely nothing legally now.

Yeah, it's unenforcable, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I've mentioned this.



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bigtakilla said:
SpokenTruth said:

Apparently not.  Because that Supreme Court decision made the The Flag Protection Act of 1989 and all other state and local laws unconstitutional and therefore unenforceable.   All of those laws are still on those books but they mean absolutely nothing legally now.

Yeah, it's unenforcable, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I've mentioned this.

What, in your mind, is the significance of a law that has been negated as unconstitutional but hasn't been formally repealed?  Is it simply a piece of historical trivia?  Or is there something more?  Please be specific. 



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bigtakilla said:
SpokenTruth said:

Apparently not.  Because that Supreme Court decision made the The Flag Protection Act of 1989 and all other state and local laws unconstitutional and therefore unenforceable.   All of those laws are still on those books but they mean absolutely nothing legally now.

Yeah, it's unenforcable, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I've mentioned this.

Considering the situation, it might as well not exist. The difference between the law existing in its current form and it not existing at all is that you can nitpick about one case but not the other.



Zkuq said:
bigtakilla said:

Yeah, it's unenforcable, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I've mentioned this.

Considering the situation, it might as well not exist. The difference between the law existing in its current form and it not existing at all is that you can nitpick about one case but not the other.

It simply is what it is.



SpokenTruth said:
bigtakilla said:

Yeah, it's unenforcable, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I've mentioned this.

You were not speaking from a stance of unenforceable.  Your stance was criminal, prosecutable.  You never brought up the fact it is inert and wholly irrelevant to the legal system. 

There seems to be a whole lot of people arrested for this, and sent to trail. Strange for something that is acceptable, no?



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SpokenTruth said:
bigtakilla said:

There seems to be a whole lot of people arrested for this, and sent to trail. Strange for something that is acceptable, no?

Find me one that didn't have charges dropped or even awarded damages for violating their 1st amendment rights.  I'll wait.

If the point was to say that they got fined or not awarded, I'd agree. The point flag burning not being found acceptable is the point, and people being arrested shows just that.



SpokenTruth said:
bigtakilla said:

If the point was to say that they got fined or not awarded, I'd agree. The point flag burning not being found acceptable is the point, and people being arrested shows just that.

And then being awarded compensation for having their consitutional rights violated.  Yeah, real acceptable.

And how many have had that happen? Probably not the majority, lol. *Edit* But again we're dancing around the point that it is illegal, and it still is enforced. People may not get in trouble for it, but it's a thing. Some people may get money, but then again people get money for coffee being hot as well.



SpokenTruth said:
bigtakilla said:

And how many have had that happen? Probably not the majority, lol. 

Uh, yeah.  The majority.  Are you suggesting that states and local jurisdictions are violating the contitution without recompense to the citizen? 

 

Hang on, you dodn't even live in the US.

Well, what can I say, people get payed because coffee's hot, and I even question the majority, but hey, tough to prove.

Still, as I wrote above, it's an enforced law.



SpokenTruth said:
bigtakilla said:

Well, what can I say, people get payed because coffee's hot.

Still, as I wrote above, it's an enforced law.

I'm starting to think you have no idea what the Constitution is. 

Think away.



bigtakilla said:
SpokenTruth said:

And then being awarded compensation for having their consitutional rights violated.  Yeah, real acceptable.

And how many have had that happen? Probably not the majority, lol. *Edit* But again we're dancing around the point that it is illegal, and it still is enforced. People may not get in trouble for it, but it's a thing. Some people may get money, but then again people get money for coffee being hot as well.

By "it is illegal", you mean that the anti-flag-desecration law is illegal, right?  But some stupid people illegally enforce the illegal law anyway. 



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