Cerebralbore101 said:
o_O.Q said:
no that's not what i said at all... its a more complex issue than you appear to realise
thought has to also be placed into the best method for communicating these ideas
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At this point you need to spell your position out in good old fashioned propositional logic. You know, if P then Q, and if not P then not Q. That sort of stuff. I'm not the only one that is confused over what your position is here. Why not just find out what behavioral patterns are more productive, and then teach them directly? Why are Gods needed for morality? What makes the existance of Gods necessary for the existance of Objective Morality?
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"Why not just find out what behavioral patterns are more productive, and then teach them directly?"
several reasons - for one as i've said most of these concepts are very complex and, therefore, have to be encoded into stories to convey the meanings in a more effective way
also have you ever disobeyed good advice that was conveyed to you? i'm guessing that's the case since everyone does, however, you'd be more compelled to follow certain advice if that advice transcends your subjective view of the world or is assigned to something that transcends your subjective view of the world
and that's all a god is in this context - something that transends the limited subjective scope humans are plagued with
that's why in the past there were gods for many of the intangible concepts we deal with that appear to be constants such aphrodite for love and ares for war