Doe it really matter if God exists or not...?

[Cerebralbore101]

o_O.Q said:

Cerebralbore101 said:

At this point you need to spell your position out in good old fashioned propositional logic. You know, if P then Q, and if not P then not Q. That sort of stuff. I'm not the only one that is confused over what your position is here. Why not just find out what behavioral patterns are more productive, and then teach them directly? Why are Gods needed for morality? What makes the existance of Gods necessary for the existance of Objective Morality? 

 

"Why not just find out what behavioral patterns are more productive, and then teach them directly?"

 

several reasons - for one as i've said most of these concepts are very complex and, therefore, have to be encoded into stories to convey the meanings in a more effective way

 

also have you ever disobeyed good advice that was conveyed to you? i'm guessing that's the case since everyone does, however, you'd be more compelled to follow certain advice if that advice transcends your subjective view of the world or is assigned to something that transcends your subjective view of the world

 

and that's all a god is in this context - something that transends the limited subjective scope humans are plagued with

 

that's why in the past there were gods for many of the intangible concepts we deal with that appear to be constants such aphrodite for love and ares for war 

In that case I didn't misunderstand anything. Your position is literally that ethics can't be taught without attributing them to a god in a story.