3.5 more than the PRO. Impressive.
Seeing how the PS4 Pro manages to achieve pretty good results with checkerboarding with quite a bit less horsepower, I am curious to see how much of a leap Scorpio will be over it when it comes to 4K imagery. This amount of RAM will sure help deliver a crisper image.
My 4K HDR TV is ready for it. Here's hoping MS will deliver the goods this next sunday.
| Hynad said: Seeing how the PS4 manages to do pretty good with checkerboarding with quite a bit less horsepower, I am curious to see how much of a leap Scorpio will be over it, when it comes to 4K imagery. This amount of RAM will sure help deliver a crisper image. |
The biggest thing is checkerboarding = horrible thing for developers, many developers said it and thats why they don't do it in most cases. Sure first party sony games will look good checkerboarded but it still takes a few weeks to do.
Native 4k = Click done. Because the PC version will have the native 4k anyway as long as a console will handle it it should be there.
So for third party support on higher resolutions this extra memory will be a must-have in combination with the extra memory bandwith and horsepower, for higher resolution the CPU actually isn't a big deal. When you checkerboard however you are natively running the game at a lower resolution and the lower the resolution the more CPU dependend the game becomes.
Either way its an impressive amount they managed to free up and its a big deal because if developers cannot get to the higher resolutions the resources will go to waste, something that third parties are already showing with some lackluster ps4 pro supported titles.

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| malistix1985 said: 1- The biggest thing is checkerboarding = horrible thing for developers, many developers said it and thats why they don't do it in most cases. Sure first party sony games will look good checkerboarded but it still takes a few weeks to do.
2- When you checkerboard however you are natively running the game at a lower resolution and the lower the resolution the more CPU dependend the game becomes.
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1- First time I ever hear about this. Source?
2- What are you on about?
Hynad said:
1- First time I ever hear about this. Source? |
google "lower resolution cpu intensive" im sure you will find thousands of hits, any tech site will tell you this in any of their tests for cpu and gpu components its commen knowledge, no offense.
Destiny 2 is also a good excample since its been in the news lately, higher resolutions on 30fps not a big deal because nativly it runs at 30fps but 60fps on 1080p is impossible, the gpu wouldn't need to do much extra work to render the extra frames but the cpu cannot sent the instructions to render the frames fast enough.
Sending instructions to handle higher resolution frames isn't as intensive as sending ADDITIONAL instructions.
Altough the GPU displays the graphics the CPU tells the GPU what to do.

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malistix1985 said:
google "lower resolution cpu intensive" im sure you will find thousands of hits, any tech site will tell you this in any of their tests for cpu and gpu components its commen knowledge, no offense. Destiny 2 is also a good excample since its been in the news lately, higher resolutions on 30fps not a big deal because nativly it runs at 30fps but 60fps on 1080p is impossible, the gpu wouldn't need to do much extra work to render the extra frames but the cpu cannot sent the instructions to render the frames fast enough. Sending instructions to handle higher resolution frames isn't as intensive as sending ADDITIONAL instructions. Altough the GPU displays the graphics the CPU tells the GPU what to do. |
That applies to some cases, not all. In the case of checkerboarding, I doubt it applies since the CPU is already used "efficiently" for the 1080p version of the games.
| jason1637 said: 3.5 more than the PRO. Impressive. |
This is one is one of the biggest disappointments with the Pro. They went for higher resolution but there is no room for effects and assets that require more RAM.
This is gonna allow Scropio games to have a lot more polish. Should be able to achieve 4K textures with ease.
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| Hynad said: That applies to some cases, not all. In the case of checkerboarding, I doubt it applies since the CPU is already used "efficiently" for the 1080p version of the games. |
But if you are not checkerboarding and not gaining high resolutions you will know the GPU power is being wasted and I check digital foundry and other tech youtubers often and sadly that is the case in many ps4 pro titles.
If Microsoft can use that extra horsepower to achieve and resolve the issues of getting higher resolutions then we should see much better use of the console hardware. Both consoles where not designed to offer 60fps on 1080p because of their CPU bottlenecks and this extra memory is very important on the Scorpio because its one of the big reasons some games didn't achieve higher resolutions on the ps4 pro.
Just comparing it to a pc going for console-settings in 4k you will see they use more then 5.5gbs of total memory, usually they use around that just on the graphics card alone.
Its going to be a very interesting E3 for sure I am very excited to see if Microsoft has pulled it off but news like this does a lot to think they might have :)

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Machiavellian said:
Its a mid gen console, why makes you think this is the last iteration for MS. If anything when Sony is ready for their next gen so will MS. The PS4 Pro and Scorpio will be the low end while the new consoles will be the high. Having the scorpio as your low end seems pretty good for MS |
It doesn't seem like a mid-gen refresh it seems like a whole new platform. I understand Microsoft have stated it will not have exclusive games but the hardware seems expensive and over-complicated. I can forsee it costing something like £399 in the UK while the ps4 pro is at £279 or even £249. The pro looks very cheap to make in comparison to the Scorpio.
So my Xbox one will run all the same games at 720p or 900p where as the Scorpio will run them at 4k or supersample 4k to 1080p?
I'm not sure I'm going to be interested in upgrading to be honest if the ps5 will hits stores 18 months later and a new Xbox perhaps a year after that.
